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Hey look, it's a flying Curze with wings! ....

Comparison:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources//fw_site/fw_blogs/2015/12/24/FDK6UY655536TG5/pic4.jpg


http://www.fanhammer.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Konrad-Curze-13-300x254.jpg


Perhaps Corax could outdo his brother, and maintain that pose in flight. []


At least he doesn't look like he is about to break dance like mr haunter (as much).


The pose sorta reminds of the nintendo game Double Dragon too - with the fake flying kick:


http://cdn.wikimg.net/strategywiki/images/3/30/Double_Dragon_NES_jump_kick.png



A Double Dragon Primarch game would be fun though.


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Please FW, no more reusing poses among the primarchs. That and less ninja, and more... man'ness.

I kinda like it, he looks like he's landing and shooting a traitor whereas kurze looks like he's getting ready to pounce on his target.

I vastly prefer Kurzes pose, detailing and model. Kurze looks to me like a hunched over predator whilst something just seems very.... Off to me with Corax. Its the first primarch i havent found even remotely appealing, the wings and hair look poor to me and the rest looks merely average.

 Melcavuk wrote:
I vastly prefer Kurzes pose, detailing and model. Kurze looks to me like a hunched over predator whilst something just seems very.... Off to me with Corax. Its the first primarch i havent found even remotely appealing, the wings and hair look poor to me and the rest looks merely average.

Honestly, I find them the other way around, probably due to enjoying the Raven Guard more than the Night Lords

I like corax's full flight pose from the book's cover artwork. I have also liked all the forgeworld primarch sculpts so far (except for filgrims goofy hair). They have all looked very commanding... but not this miniature.

I am not a fan of this at all... in fact I quite dislike it. The pose looks off, his body part scale seems off (compared to the other primarchs), and his backpack looks... and his hair... ugh...

Corax is one of my favorite primarchs in the books, maybe take a second shot at it forgeworld?

Your'all nuts, it looks amazing.

The only thing I'm not blown away by is the hair. Apart from that I think he's incredible. I quite like the similarities with him and Curze, as they aren't too dissimilar Primarchs. Corax even mentions how him and Curze were made of the same stuff and their lives were just a coin toss apart.

The hair and face just don't capture the look of the artwork. I know it is because he is pouncing, but it seems like they could have made a different pose. If this were Sanguinius, the pounce would make more sense.

Why does it not make sens for Corax? He does have a jet pack after all, and Hammer of Wrath attacks.

Plus his hair would not be perfectly groomed if he's smashing into the ground like that..I think he looks fantastic. Love the sweeping wings on his jump/jet pack. I'd rather he looked like he's doing something instead of just sitting there like a limpet like Lorgar or Guilliman.

Since everyone likes his pose so much, we should demand FW keep doing the ninja appendage pitch.

We have, Fulgrim, Vulkan, Curze and now Corax all in approximately the same pose. Yea that's just grand.

I know that a combat stance is meant to be one foot forward, one back, but what FW is doing, it's just such a fantastical pattern in a miniature line.

Seriously Dakka, wake up. I understand miniatures are cool in and of themselves, but there is a context to the game pieces - and it should be ridiculed when the company is pulling this, let alone the aesthetics in general looking wonky for Corax. We shouldn't reduce things to a trendy 'hot dog awesome' bandwagon if we really want things to get better.

They could have had him swooping.

I get that for footsloggers, yes, fine it's a battle stance, if unoriginal. But Corax has a JP, they should have made him use it in a dynamic fashion, not in a retreat fashion.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Why does it not make sens for Corax? He does have a jet pack after all, and Hammer of Wrath attacks.

Corax was the stealthy one. I don't know how they could fix that, but it is more of a Sanguinius pose.

Frozocrone wrote:They could have had him swooping.

I get that for footsloggers, yes, fine it's a battle stance, if unoriginal. But Corax has a JP, they should have made him use it in a dynamic fashion, not in a retreat fashion.

If you look closely at the foot that is touching the ground and the pose of the Space Marine, he's not retreating; in fact, he's crashing into the ground for a Hammer of Wrath style attack.

casvalremdeikun wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Why does it not make sens for Corax? He does have a jet pack after all, and Hammer of Wrath attacks.

Corax was the stealthy one. I don't know how they could fix that, but it is more of a Sanguinius pose.

We have to remember that Corax' "stealth" was believed to be a latent psychic ability (discussed in the books) that rendered him fully invisible to enemies, so playing to his true stealth elements would have made for a fairly boring model!

I really like the model as it proves to me they can pull off a "dynamic entry" pose for the Primarchs, which of course should set up for Sanguinius to be just as amazing as he should be. The rumored pose for Sanguinius where he is held aloft in the air, impaling a Bloodthirster on the base with his Spear of Telesto, could conceivably be done...but we'll see. As for Corax, I doubt we will see his Istvaan period rules reflected in this model given that it would be far more than a simple weapon swap to remove his jump pack and give him a heavy bolter, perhaps they will release a separate model later?

Being the stealthy one doesn't mean he was constantly stealthy. He was tearing traitors to shreds on Istvaan, during the main battle, I'm sure he wasn't that stealthy then. The pose is fine for Corax mid battle.

The jetpack turbines look awkwardly undersized. I'll withhold my full judgement on the model until I see it fully painted.

 Zuul wrote:
The jetpack turbines look awkwardly undersized. I'll withhold my full judgement on the model until I see it fully painted.

I'd wager there is a large single thruster in the middle like MK IV packs.

 Zuul wrote:
The jetpack turbines look awkwardly undersized. I'll withhold my full judgement on the model until I see it fully painted.

As others have said they're probably to maneuver during flight. More than likely to be a larger one set in the center of his flight pack.
As for the OP, it seems you're just trying to troll here. The pose is ideal for the character. They're not ballerinas after all.

Though I have really been looking forward to Corax. I'm unimpressed. What I had thought was an auto buy just to have for my RG probably won't be a buy at all.

 kveldulf wrote:
Since everyone likes his pose so much, we should demand FW keep doing the ninja appendage pitch.

We have, Fulgrim, Vulkan, Curze and now Corax all in approximately the same pose. Yea that's just grand.

I know that a combat stance is meant to be one foot forward, one back, but what FW is doing, it's just such a fantastical pattern in a miniature line.

Seriously Dakka, wake up. I understand miniatures are cool in and of themselves, but there is a context to the game pieces - and it should be ridiculed when the company is pulling this, let alone the aesthetics in general looking wonky for Corax. We shouldn't reduce things to a trendy 'hot dog awesome' bandwagon if we really want things to get better.

How does vulkan have the same pose as those other ones? He has a really firm "two feet on the ground" pose.

 Powerfisting wrote:

 kveldulf wrote:
Since everyone likes his pose so much, we should demand FW keep doing the ninja appendage pitch.

We have, Fulgrim, Vulkan, Curze and now Corax all in approximately the same pose. Yea that's just grand.

I know that a combat stance is meant to be one foot forward, one back, but what FW is doing, it's just such a fantastical pattern in a miniature line.

Seriously Dakka, wake up. I understand miniatures are cool in and of themselves, but there is a context to the game pieces - and it should be ridiculed when the company is pulling this, let alone the aesthetics in general looking wonky for Corax. We shouldn't reduce things to a trendy 'hot dog awesome' bandwagon if we really want things to get better.

How does vulkan have the same pose as those other ones? He has a really firm "two feet on the ground" pose.

Yeah. He has one leg back but his pose is pretty different.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Powerfisting wrote:

 kveldulf wrote:
Since everyone likes his pose so much, we should demand FW keep doing the ninja appendage pitch.

We have, Fulgrim, Vulkan, Curze and now Corax all in approximately the same pose. Yea that's just grand.

I know that a combat stance is meant to be one foot forward, one back, but what FW is doing, it's just such a fantastical pattern in a miniature line.

Seriously Dakka, wake up. I understand miniatures are cool in and of themselves, but there is a context to the game pieces - and it should be ridiculed when the company is pulling this, let alone the aesthetics in general looking wonky for Corax. We shouldn't reduce things to a trendy 'hot dog awesome' bandwagon if we really want things to get better.

How does vulkan have the same pose as those other ones? He has a really firm "two feet on the ground" pose.

Yeah. He has one leg back but his pose is pretty different.

Eh, yea, fulgrim and vulkan models are not as clear cut and past.... but the general form is mostly there - imo.
Look at which way the head is turning,
look at the shoulder positions
look at the leg positions.

Either way, just the similarity between curze and corax, that's bad enough.

I'm not a fan, but I do want to see a painted version before making up my mind. Also, I want to see the back, as those wings and tail feathers look like they might be formed by a huge Aquila on his thruster, which would look amazing with raven skulls.

Edit just noticed the way the ground is being destroyed by his landing. That's a very nice touch.

Curze is stalking like a predator, perched atop a ruin, observing, threatening, ready to pounce.

Corax is landing after a long assault jump, his landing splitting the ground, shooting a foe on impact.

They are different.

Mentally put Curze on Corax's base and it becomes very evident.

 Ashiraya wrote:
Curze is stalking like a predator, perched atop a ruin, observing, threatening, ready to pounce.

Corax is landing after a long assault jump, his landing splitting the ground, shooting a foe on impact.

They are different.

Mentally put Curze on Corax's base and it becomes very evident.

Mentally I have, and I see it doesn't take much to change/swap the story between them. In the particular point you bring, you can change what exactly they are 'doing' with mainly swapping out the bases.

If you cannot see the difference, I guess outside of drawing lines madden style between the two (which I'm not going to bother doing), it's just gonna have to resort to being a visual puzzle: not everyone gets it.

I personally like diverse dynamic postures among my hero miniatures, particularly in a series of those miniatures. The human body has a renown ability to accommodate this without being absurd.

 kveldulf wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
Curze is stalking like a predator, perched atop a ruin, observing, threatening, ready to pounce.

Corax is landing after a long assault jump, his landing splitting the ground, shooting a foe on impact.

They are different.

Mentally put Curze on Corax's base and it becomes very evident.

Mentally I have, and I see it doesn't take much to change/swap the story between them. In the particular point you bring, you can change what exactly they are 'doing' with mainly swapping out the bases.

If you cannot see the difference, I guess outside of drawing lines madden style between the two (which I'm not going to bother doing), it's just gonna have to resort to being a visual puzzle: not everyone gets it.

I personally like diverse dynamic postures among my hero miniatures, particularly in a series of those miniatures. The human body has a renown ability to accommodate this without being absurd.

Not everyone is gonna share your opinion on this matter, it doesn't make them wrong or you right, get used to it.

Personally, I like the pose and the appearance of him firing into the Marine(s) he is assaulting. I like the similarities between him and Curze, as has been mentioned already, they are very similar Primarch. Their poses are similar Vet distinctly different, same with Fulgrim, Fulgrim appears to be dancing out of the way of Ferrus' hammer, and that something you only really see with them posed together. They both tell two sides of the story.

Corax and Curze don't, they tell their own stories. As has been pointed out Curze is posed ready to strike at his next victim and Corax is on the attack. Yes you could change a couple things about them and reverse the story like you said. But that is the point, two sides of the same coin.

Like it or don't its up to you. But people aren't wrong for thinking differently from you on a matter of opinion.

Curze is far less dynamic looking, as if he's brooding and being Batman.

Corax is being all dynamic and landing.

So yes, their legs are posed a similar way, but if you're focusing on that then you're not looking at the whole model in "action" as it were.

Or to put it another way, every model that is standing in the "running" forward pose (all the infantry kits have those sets of legs) are all the same

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 kveldulf wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
Curze is stalking like a predator, perched atop a ruin, observing, threatening, ready to pounce.

Corax is landing after a long assault jump, his landing splitting the ground, shooting a foe on impact.

They are different.

Mentally put Curze on Corax's base and it becomes very evident.

Mentally I have, and I see it doesn't take much to change/swap the story between them. In the particular point you bring, you can change what exactly they are 'doing' with mainly swapping out the bases.

If you cannot see the difference, I guess outside of drawing lines madden style between the two (which I'm not going to bother doing), it's just gonna have to resort to being a visual puzzle: not everyone gets it.

I personally like diverse dynamic postures among my hero miniatures, particularly in a series of those miniatures. The human body has a renown ability to accommodate this without being absurd.

Not everyone is gonna share your opinion on this matter, it doesn't make them wrong or you right, get used to it.

Personally, I like the pose and the appearance of him firing into the Marine(s) he is assaulting. I like the similarities between him and Curze, as has been mentioned already, they are very similar Primarch. Their poses are similar Vet distinctly different, same with Fulgrim, Fulgrim appears to be dancing out of the way of Ferrus' hammer, and that something you only really see with them posed together. They both tell two sides of the story.

Corax and Curze don't, they tell their own stories. As has been pointed out Curze is posed ready to strike at his next victim and Corax is on the attack. Yes you could change a couple things about them and reverse the story like you said. But that is the point, two sides of the same coin.

Like it or don't its up to you. But people aren't wrong for thinking differently from you on a matter of opinion.

Please don't deconstruct my argument by attempting to make this solely a matter of opinions. If I notice a similarity but you do not, fine. If you really think otherwise that's okay, but we can't both be correct here. There might exist exclusive particulars of the models in ways, but that is not the basis of my distinction - it is the overall pose.

Furthermore, an opinion is not reduced to an opinion. An opinion is somewhere between ignorance and fact but It is neither devoid of referencing correctness - since that is the implied nature. I am either pointing out a something that is further from the truth or closer to it.

Also, did I say that someone was 'wrong' for not seeing what seems apparent to me? If you can't see it, okay - I then equated it to a puzzle: some see it, some don't.

It's missing a whirling power whip in one hand, with some kind of aggressive raven talon(lightning claws) being provocative in the other. Should of put him on two feet nasty big jet pack. Followed by better armor etchings and overall style. I'm pretty done with the flying in posse' its getting old as you've said. Very underwhelming model really, I get the feeling not much time or effort was put into it especially with the etching on the armor. The jet pack is so/so but I would rather have a picture of the back of it before I say its crap. Over all out of all the primarchs this one's probably the worse. Which makes me sad cause this is my second favorite primarch. If I had to give this thing a Model Rating / Presentation Rating(How hes standing, equip on him etc.) 5 Model / 4 Presentation. Granted yeah that's almost avg. but the point is primarchs are awe inspiring not avg. I just don't get why they wanted to make an epic model out of Corax with his freaking BACK UP WEAPON.

 Mozzyfuzzy wrote:
Curze is far less dynamic looking, as if he's brooding and being Batman.

Corax is being all dynamic and landing.

So yes, their legs are posed a similar way, but if you're focusing on that then you're not looking at the whole model in "action" as it were.

Or to put it another way, every model that is standing in the "running" forward pose (all the infantry kits have those sets of legs) are all the same

Running poses for tactical/soldier dudes carry expectations of uniformity, so static poses are sometimes innately more forgivable especially when they are multipart plastics, and thus carry enough options to be different elsewhere. However, for the primarch models, they are nearly $100, you'd expect the sculpts to be less repetitive (if not gone, particularly at that price) among those in that same hero centric series.