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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 10:58:03
Subject: Blood Angels Objective Question
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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Just a quick question on which Blood Angel squads can take an objective in a game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 12:08:09
Subject: Blood Angels Objective Question
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Anything except a Stormraven depending on who you rule it (the hull is 5" away from the table on a standard flying stand).
In a Combined Arms Detachment Tacticals and Scouts get the 'Objective Secured' rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 12:26:56
Subject: Re:Blood Angels Objective Question
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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Does that mean only those tagged as 'objective secured' can hold it? Or can anyone hold it apart from a Stromraven?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 13:06:26
Subject: Blood Angels Objective Question
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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In 7th edition all units are scoring unless they say otherwise. (Note that death company no longer say otherwise,) and so the only unit in the BA codex that can't score is a stormraven in flyer mode. They can still score in hover mode.
If you take a detachment that offers objective secured, then any of your guys that receive that ability (eg troops in a CAD,) have what is essentially "priority scoring." That is, if they are near an objective while an enemy is also there, they claim the objective as if the enemy wasn't there at all unless the enemy unit is ALSO objective secured.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 13:11:28
Subject: Blood Angels Objective Question
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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niv-mizzet wrote:In 7th edition all units are scoring unless they say otherwise. (Note that death company no longer say otherwise,) and so the only unit in the BA codex that can't score is a stormraven in flyer mode. They can still score in hover mode.
If you take a detachment that offers objective secured, then any of your guys that receive that ability (eg troops in a CAD,) have what is essentially "priority scoring." That is, if they are near an objective while an enemy is also there, they claim the objective as if the enemy wasn't there at all unless the enemy unit is ALSO objective secured.
Ah, that makes sense now.
Much appreciated!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 14:56:35
Subject: Blood Angels Objective Question
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niv-mizzet wrote:In 7th edition all units are scoring unless they say otherwise. (Note that death company no longer say otherwise,) and so the only unit in the BA codex that can't score is a stormraven in flyer mode. They can still score in hover mode.
If you take a detachment that offers objective secured, then any of your guys that receive that ability (eg troops in a CAD,) have what is essentially "priority scoring." That is, if they are near an objective while an enemy is also there, they claim the objective as if the enemy wasn't there at all unless the enemy unit is ALSO objective secured.
RAW says flyers measure from the hull to objectives, and the Stomraven's hull is 5" away from the tabletop on the standard flying stand.
Some people house rule it to measure from the base though, discuss with your opponent before hand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 15:12:50
Subject: Blood Angels Objective Question
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Bartali wrote: niv-mizzet wrote:In 7th edition all units are scoring unless they say otherwise. (Note that death company no longer say otherwise,) and so the only unit in the BA codex that can't score is a stormraven in flyer mode. They can still score in hover mode.
If you take a detachment that offers objective secured, then any of your guys that receive that ability (eg troops in a CAD,) have what is essentially "priority scoring." That is, if they are near an objective while an enemy is also there, they claim the objective as if the enemy wasn't there at all unless the enemy unit is ALSO objective secured.
RAW says flyers measure from the hull to objectives, and the Stomraven's hull is 5" away from the tabletop on the standard flying stand.
Some people house rule it to measure from the base though, discuss with your opponent before hand.
Objective could be on a hill or in a ruin
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 15:26:59
Subject: Blood Angels Objective Question
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Indeed, any objective 2" or higher off the table can be scored by RAW.
Under 2" off the tabletop and by RAW the Stormraven can't score those.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/01/08 15:38:43
Subject: Blood Angels Objective Question
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Unfortunately the Objective secured units in the Blood Angel codex (all 2 of them woo!) are among the weakest units in the book so you likely won't be fielding many of them.
Whenever I field my sons of Sanguinius, the enemy troop/obj secured units are up there near the top of my list as high priority targets. As others have said, every unit in the book (bar the Stormraven argument) can score, but all your opponent needs to do is stick one of their troops within 3" of where your non scout/tactical squad is by the end of the game and you lose that obj point/points. That is why you need to try and make a concerted effort to wipe those units out early so you don't get pipped like that at the end.
Obj secured is one of my main obstacles when playing Blood Angels.
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