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Which legion has the largest space marines? I'm curious.. Is it the Alpha Legion?

Those with the most mutants I would guess
Is this large enough for you ?

 oldzoggy wrote:
Those with the most mutants I would guess
Is this large enough for you ?

Well that's Angron, a Primarch. So not really someone we would include in a "largest space marines" discussion.

Why not it clearly shows that mutations make marines bigger.
His original form wasn't that big.

Yea I'm interested in like HH loyalist marines for example. Out of all the legions, who were the largest space marines? I read somewhere Alpha legion were the largest.

 oldzoggy wrote:
Why not it clearly shows that mutations make marines bigger.
His original form wasn't that big.

He is a Primarch, so of course he was that big originally. And the only "mutation" he ever received was his ascendence to a Demon Prince, which he is clearly not on that picture.

Alpha legion were noted for being tall and their primarch(s) was on the short side.

Alpha Legion is noted for having larger than average Marines.

Raven guard too was noted for getting larger Marines when Corax attempted to rebuild his legion aside from - or perhaps including - the monstrosities.

On a side note. The 3rd company captain of the Exorcists is noted for being ogryn or primarch sized.

In the Ragnar book one of his companions on earth was huge, also their current chapter master Grimnar is pretty huge.

Technically Primarchs are a type of space marine so Magnus .

Non-primarch Apparently Alpha Legionnaires have some big ones, so did Lunar Wolves.

I think all legions had a variety of shapes and sizes. Imperial Fists had some burly dudes too, right?

Primarchs are only Space Marines in the sense that Space Marines are human...

That is, not really.

Ezekyle Abaddon was noted to be especially big

Alpharius is noted as being the smallest of the Primarchs, he's still a Primarch though so bigger than your average Astartes. The Alpha Legion were supposedly large like their Primarch, some even being able to stand in for him and Alpharius act as regular Astartes.

Polux was supposed to be a rather large Astartes.

Not a Legion, but the Black Dragons Chapter is formed of super-mutated Space Marines, some of whom stand nine feet tall (with giant bone sabres growing from their arms to boot).

 Pilau Rice wrote:
Alpharius is noted as being the smallest of the Primarchs, he's still a Primarch though so bigger than your average Astartes. The Alpha Legion were supposedly large like their Primarch, some even being able to stand in for him and Alpharius act as regular Astartes.

Polux was supposed to be a rather large Astartes.

what if it was just Alpharius pretending to be a regular astartes pretending to be Alpharius?

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/e/e1/Abaddon6.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121213025550

Abaddon's latest art makes him pretty huge.

 oldzoggy wrote:
Why not it clearly shows that mutations make marines bigger.
His original form wasn't that big.

How do you know? That looks prefall. He isn't a demon prince in that picture. It is obviously an artists interpretation.


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 Pilau Rice wrote:
Alpharius is noted as being the smallest of the Primarchs, he's still a Primarch though so bigger than your average Astartes. The Alpha Legion were supposedly large like their Primarch, some even being able to stand in for him and Alpharius act as regular Astartes.

Polux was supposed to be a rather large Astartes.

I think that argues that he isn't significantly larger than the average space marine, not that they are significantly larger than other space marines.


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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/e/e1/Abaddon6.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20121213025550

Abaddon's latest art makes him pretty huge.

Yeah, Abbadon is noted as being very big even for a space marine. There are other of his size too.

The polux model is massive. He's taller than a terminator, and stands pretty much the same height as the 30k Abaddon model. Given how huge Abaddon is supposed to be, and the fact that he wears terminator plate, that makes polux the biggest marine model that I'm aware of. I know models don't necessarily reflect fluff, but thought I'd add it to the conversation.

Not sure why one legions Marines would be taller than any other, I mean I know the reasons why it could happen, but I've never seen a reference to a particularly tall or short legion.

nareik wrote:

 Pilau Rice wrote:
Alpharius is noted as being the smallest of the Primarchs, he's still a Primarch though so bigger than your average Astartes. The Alpha Legion were supposedly large like their Primarch, some even being able to stand in for him and Alpharius act as regular Astartes.

Polux was supposed to be a rather large Astartes.

what if it was just Alpharius pretending to be a regular astartes pretending to be Alpharius?

*sigh

Not this again.

 JamesY wrote:
The polux model is massive. He's taller than a terminator, and stands pretty much the same height as the 30k Abaddon model. Given how huge Abaddon is supposed to be, and the fact that he wears terminator plate, that makes polux the biggest marine model that I'm aware of. I know models don't necessarily reflect fluff, but thought I'd add it to the conversation.

Not sure why one legions Marines would be taller than any other, I mean I know the reasons why it could happen, but I've never seen a reference to a particularly tall or short legion.

Yeah, Pollux is specifically noted as being a giant, similar to how Abaddon is. There are other similarly massive marines as well.

There was a Space Wolf character in the 2nd ed codex (Ranulff I think it was) who was supposed to be absolutely massive.
His fluff had him holding a mountain pass for weeks VS an Ork horde. Eventually he fell in battle and the Orks were so impressed they built a sort of alter to him.
He was str 10 in the rules (unarmed) which was sort of bonkers at the time.
So probably an honourable mention to him.

 PhillyT wrote:

 JamesY wrote:
The polux model is massive. He's taller than a terminator, and stands pretty much the same height as the 30k Abaddon model. Given how huge Abaddon is supposed to be, and the fact that he wears terminator plate, that makes polux the biggest marine model that I'm aware of. I know models don't necessarily reflect fluff, but thought I'd add it to the conversation.

Not sure why one legions Marines would be taller than any other, I mean I know the reasons why it could happen, but I've never seen a reference to a particularly tall or short legion.

Yeah, Pollux is specifically noted as being a giant, similar to how Abaddon is. There are other similarly massive marines as well.

If they were the same size, Abaddon should still be the bigger model because of his armour. That said, his model is too small, he should really be near Horus' size due to the rumours of him being a clone. Or did that get retconned?

 Ratius wrote:
There was a Space Wolf character in the 2nd ed codex (Ranulff I think it was) who was supposed to be absolutely massive.
His fluff had him holding a mountain pass for weeks VS an Ork horde. Eventually he fell in battle and the Orks were so impressed they built a sort of alter to him.
He was str 10 in the rules (unarmed) which was sort of bonkers at the time.
So probably an honourable mention to him.

Also Arjac Rockfist in the current rules.

Also of note is Brother Pasanius from the Ultramarines series of novels, who in being so large as having to have parts of his power armour made from terminator armour.

 Jehan-reznor wrote:
In the Ragnar book one of his companions on earth was huge, also their current chapter master Grimnar is pretty huge.

Yeah, the big marine, he stands tall even for a space marine.

 PhillyT wrote:

I think that argues that he isn't significantly larger than the average space marine, not that they are significantly larger than other space marines..

Horus waited for them. As five men burst onto the deck, he shot four of them through the head before they even had a chance to act. Without pause the fifth shot rang out, but the last man was different. More than foot taller even than the Luna Wolves Space Marines, he had piercing green eyes and looked almost a match for Horus himself.

The new Space Marines were tall and strong, much reminiscent of their Primarch, and were possessed of a cunning intelligence.

Going by the IA article on the Alphas Alpharius was more than a foot taller than the Luna Wolves. If all the Alpha Legion are the same size as Alpharius, or similar height, then that puts them as being pretty large. True though, it could be the other way around like you say, The IA is pretty old now. I don't think there is a specific mention of the heights of the Alphas in current fluff the same as the IA article.

I remember Chayne in Legion thinking on the heights of the marines, but it's a small group of them, 2 of which are the twins.

Alexis Polux is described as being a giant among giants. It is probably why he could swing a power fist as well as he could. He also wielded a Storm Shield at a time where they were exclusively terminator equipment.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
He also wielded a Storm Shield at a time where they were exclusively terminator equipment.

 Ashiraya wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
He also wielded a Storm Shield at a time where they were exclusively terminator equipment.

Those are some nice boarding shields, but Alexis Polux used a Vigil-pattern Storm Shield, which was Terminator equipment.

...You're right, those are boarding shields. I always thought they were storm shields, and spent ages trying to figure out how to get rid of those bastards on the tabletop.

Well, this makes things easier!

 Ashiraya wrote:
...You're right, those are boarding shields. I always thought they were storm shields, and spent ages trying to figure out how to get rid of those bastards on the tabletop.

Well, this makes things easier!

Yup, Boarding Shields are just souped up Combat Shields. Yes, still give an invuln, but not the nice 3++ of a Storm Shield. Polux gets one despite wearing regular old power armour. Dude was massive. Between that and the whole power fist thing, he was probably one of the tallest regular Space Marines.

The Alpha Legion as a whole was probably pretty darn close to being the largest SM. They were taller than average and Alpharius was shorter than average, allowing him to blend in to his legion.