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I played against my friends tau yesterday for the first time. I had a question he played it that every guy in the army had precsion shots and that they auto wounded on a five or a six skipping my toughness altogether?
Is this right?

Also he was very opposed to me getting both my armour save and reanimation protocols. Am I right in thinking I get both?

When things like this happen you should ask your opponent to show you the rule in their codex which says so.

I'm not aware of anything which grants Precision Shots to every model in a Tau army.

You should get born your armour save and Reanimation Protocols, provided nothing in the weapon's rules negates them.

Was his entire army carrying Sniper Rifles? That is the only standard Weapon that can do Wounds on a set number and have Precision Shots.

As for Reanimation Protocols, you can't use them unless you fail a Save or are denied one. At which point only Destroyer Attacks and Remove From Play Attacks are allowed to deny RP rolls. Even ID Attacks only make it harder to be successful, not deny them.

He was auto wounding me on to hit rolls of 5 and 6 something to do with the drones he had in the units. As for rp I knew I was right. Thanks for the help on the rp.

enhuff wrote:
He was auto wounding me on to hit rolls of 5 and 6 something to do with the drones he had in the units. As for rp I knew I was right. Thanks for the help on the rp.

No Tau Drones that can be taken by every unit can do that as far as I know (this may have been changed in the recent codex update, though). The "standard" drones have pulse carbines, a Shield, or Markerlight. There are specialty Drones which are available to other units and some use Missile Pods, while another carries a Sniper Rifle equivalent.

Charistoph wrote:

enhuff wrote:
He was auto wounding me on to hit rolls of 5 and 6 something to do with the drones he had in the units. As for rp I knew I was right. Thanks for the help on the rp.

No Tau Drones that can be taken by every unit can do that as far as I know (this may have been changed in the recent codex update, though). The "standard" drones have pulse carbines, a Shield, or Markerlight. There are specialty Drones which are available to other units and some use Missile Pods, while another carries a Sniper Rifle equivalent.

Being a tau player I can say no drones do this at all or indeed anything similar to this. Precision shots is possible with support systems though.

As always if you don't understand or believe a rule get your opponent to show you it.

He might think you don't get RP and armor because he thinks RP is a save. It is not. RP is a separate roll closer to feel no pain and takes place after the saves.

enhuff wrote:
I played against my friends tau yesterday for the first time. I had a question he played it that every guy in the army had precsion shots and that they auto wounded on a five or a six skipping my toughness altogether?
Is this right?

Also he was very opposed to me getting both my armour save and reanimation protocols. Am I right in thinking I get both?

I know what it is, the Advance Targeting system, it can be taken by the commander, which grant him precision shot on 5+, with the debated tau rules of sharing special rules when shooting, it can affect literally the whole army if they all shoot the same target as the commander.

 Big Mac wrote:

enhuff wrote:
I played against my friends tau yesterday for the first time. I had a question he played it that every guy in the army had precsion shots and that they auto wounded on a five or a six skipping my toughness altogether?
Is this right?

Also he was very opposed to me getting both my armour save and reanimation protocols. Am I right in thinking I get both?

I know what it is, the Advance Targeting system, it can be taken by the commander, which grant him precision shot on 5+, with the debated tau rules of sharing special rules when shooting, it can affect literally the whole army if they all shoot the same target as the commander.

That allows for Precision Shots on a 5+, but not the automatic wounding on a 5+. That requires rules like Poisoned, Rending, Sniper, or similar.

 Big Mac wrote:

enhuff wrote:
I played against my friends tau yesterday for the first time. I had a question he played it that every guy in the army had precsion shots and that they auto wounded on a five or a six skipping my toughness altogether?
Is this right?

Also he was very opposed to me getting both my armour save and reanimation protocols. Am I right in thinking I get both?

I know what it is, the Advance Targeting system, it can be taken by the commander, which grant him precision shot on 5+, with the debated tau rules of sharing special rules when shooting, it can affect literally the whole army if they all shoot the same target as the commander.

Precision shots is not wounding on a 5+. Also the rule sharing is not even remotely debatable and clearly works however precision shots is not the type of rule where it only takes 1 model in the unit to have it order for the others to benefit. So no that can't be it as that doesn't work that way at all.

 FlingitNow wrote:

 Big Mac wrote:

enhuff wrote:
I played against my friends tau yesterday for the first time. I had a question he played it that every guy in the army had precsion shots and that they auto wounded on a five or a six skipping my toughness altogether?
Is this right?

Also he was very opposed to me getting both my armour save and reanimation protocols. Am I right in thinking I get both?

I know what it is, the Advance Targeting system, it can be taken by the commander, which grant him precision shot on 5+, with the debated tau rules of sharing special rules when shooting, it can affect literally the whole army if they all shoot the same target as the commander.

Precision shots is not wounding on a 5+. Also the rule sharing is not even remotely debatable and clearly works however precision shots is not the type of rule where it only takes 1 model in the unit to have it order for the others to benefit. So no that can't be it as that doesn't work that way at all.

True, Precision Shots is model-specific, not unit granted (though a Wargear/Relic may grant it to the unit, I am not as familiar with Tau Artefacts).

Precisions Shots allow a model or Attacks from a Weapon with this rule to allow the shooting player to determine Wound Allocation on To-Hit rolls of 6 instead of using the standard methods.

I don't know much about Tau, so I can't speak to that rule (which others seem to be refuting), but I do play Necrons. Always have your codex handy. RP's rules clearly state that they are made on an unsaved wound. That means you have to make the save first, then the RP roll. The only things that deny your RP are effects that remove the model from play or otherwise destroy the model (such as strength D weapons). I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and say he just didn't know the rules. Use it as an opportunity to educate him on your army.

Charistoph wrote:

 FlingitNow wrote:

 Big Mac wrote:

enhuff wrote:
I played against my friends tau yesterday for the first time. I had a question he played it that every guy in the army had precsion shots and that they auto wounded on a five or a six skipping my toughness altogether?
Is this right?

Also he was very opposed to me getting both my armour save and reanimation protocols. Am I right in thinking I get both?

I know what it is, the Advance Targeting system, it can be taken by the commander, which grant him precision shot on 5+, with the debated tau rules of sharing special rules when shooting, it can affect literally the whole army if they all shoot the same target as the commander.

Precision shots is not wounding on a 5+. Also the rule sharing is not even remotely debatable and clearly works however precision shots is not the type of rule where it only takes 1 model in the unit to have it order for the others to benefit. So no that can't be it as that doesn't work that way at all.

True, Precision Shots is model-specific, not unit granted (though a Wargear/Relic may grant it to the unit, I am not as familiar with Tau Artefacts).

Precisions Shots allow a model or Attacks from a Weapon with this rule to allow the shooting player to determine Wound Allocation on To-Hit rolls of 6 instead of using the standard methods.

I thought I knew, it may be a formation thing then, though I don't know which; its not in the Kouyon, nor the burning dawn, the 2 that I own.

I play Tau AND Necrons.

There is nothing that allows an entire Tau army to auto wound on a 5+. There is nothing that allows Precision Shots to "propagate" to other models in your army. All of the Tau Wargear that gives Precision Shots give it to the single model possessing the Wargear.

There is nothing (in this instance) preventing the Necrons from making a Reanimation Protocols rule.

Your buddy/opponent played this wrong. Next time ask to see his rules. If he doesn't have his rules with him... well, you will have learned a valuable lesson about playing without rules. It's impossible to settle rules debates without the rules handy.

I was talking with a friend recently about playing without your rules. He told me he "never brings [his] rulebook anymore" since he knows his Tyranids so well.

I told him that the next time we played, I'd assume that all his little bugs had T2, since they are very little, and his big bugs could have DOUBLE their toughness, woot! And if he disagreed, he'd need to show me the rules.