The Ongoing AntiMatterGames DeepWars and ShadowSea News and Rumors Thread!

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**Alpharius**

NOW LIVE!!!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/524168246/deepwars-blood-reef

Full disclosure - I LOVE DeepWars and ShadowSea (built on the Song of Blades and Heroes Engine) and AntiMatter Games puts out some fantastic miniatures too.

I'm psyched to see them still going, and launching a new KS!

And there are KEV ADAMS and BOB OLLEY stretch goals too!

Update #57

Feb 21 2016
Upcoming Kickstarter Project - "DeepWars - Blood Reef"
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Hi backers. Thanks for all your support these last few months. I appreciate your patience on all of the stretch goals, and now that those are done, I'm happy to say that AntiMatter Games will be launching a new Kickstarter for the DeepWars supplement "DeepWars - Blood Reef" in March. The focus of the Kickstarter is the introduction of a new mercenary force, the Nereids of Blood Reef, with the goal of funding the warband starter set of four Nereid miniatures, the Beast of Blood Reef, a shark warbeast for the force, and a savage male Nereid berserker, along with the Blood Reef campaign supplement. We have already started on the miniatures, with one completed, the Nereid Guardian of the Reef, by Paolo Fabiani, shown below. Also completed is the awesome Beast of Blood Reef, by Bob Olley.

All of the Nerieds are amphibious beings, created by ancient Axibalan sorceresses through mixtures of humans and ethereal sea serpents, relatives of the ethereal dragons founds deep in stygian caverns, so they can actually be used in land adventures in ShadowSea as well as DeepWars. They are unpredictable beings though, so using them can be tricky if they decide their employers are causing harm to their realm.

In addition to the main goals, we are also launching rules updates to both DeepWars and ShadowSea to version 2.5, which introduces more combat options, streamlined handling of armor and wounds, and adds new tournament and campaign rules. Models will have tarot-sized game cards with descriptions of each special ability, weapon effect and tech item effect. This makes the game much easier to pick up for beginners and faster to play. All of the cards are now done and just being edited before printing. The rules edits are also done and only being re-checked to clean up any typos. We also have Spell Cards in progress so each spellcaster has a card with all of the available spells and their effects.

Here is a Jpeg of the new quickstart rules (front and back) to get a feel for the changes.

http://antimatter-games.com/download/QSR_v2.5_front.jpg

http://antimatter-games.com/download/QSR_v2.5_back.jpg

I hope you all enjoyed the last project and hope to see you backing again.

Eric

www.antimatter-games.com

Nereid Gaurdian of the Reef

Nereid Gaurdian of the Reef

Eidothera - Nereid Captain

Cymopoleia - Nereid Sorceress

Nereid Treasure Seeker

Beast of Blood Reef

Beast of Blood Reef - artwork

Male Nereid Berserker

Stretch goals include Sea Goblins, little monsters that are useful to surround enemies. These are already scheduled for sculpting by Kevin "Goblinmaster" Adams.

Sea Goblins

Other stretch goals are the Cephalid Ethermancer along with the Thotag Crab and proto-race of Yosoth, nasty ethereals to summon and cause havok to enemies. We may add more depending on funding. Bob Olley is targeted for the Ethermancer.

Cephalid Ethermancer

**Zywus**

This should be of interest to anyone looking to start a Trident Realm army in Kings of War

**Alpharius**

Keeping in mind that these will all be metal and/or resin, so set your pricing expectations accordingly.

As DW and SS are firmly set as skirmish games, it works quite well for them, but going 'counts as' elsewhere can lead to sticker shock.

Unless you mean 'only' as leaders/character types?

**RiTides**

I am all over that Cephalid Ethermancer! I think I've picked up all of their previous Cephalids, they're really brilliant! Although the oldest ones are a bit smaller (the newer models are quite uniform).

Pics of a few Deep Wars models Ramos Asura has painted up for me

. Folks should definitely consider this even if they don't play Deep Wars, the models are brilliant!

**Zywus**

Alpharius wrote:
Keeping in mind that these will all be metal and/or resin, so set your pricing expectations accordingly.

As DW and SS are firmly set as skirmish games, it works quite well for them, but going 'counts as' elsewhere can lead to sticker shock.

Unless you mean 'only' as leaders/character types?

Yea, I mainly though of them as models for characters. Mantic produce a plastic kit for two of the basic troops (Naiad enstarers/heartpiercers) but almost nothing else so characters is one of the things most needed. That said, depending on size, those mermaid ladies could be used as one of the bigger sized units such as wyrmriders, where 2-6 models is enough for 1-2 units, making up a god chunk of the army so it's not too bloody if they cost a fair bit per model.

**Cryptek of Awesome**

Oh damn... another reminder to get my Deep Wars table built...

**Barzam**

Do we have a date for Blood Reef? Or am I just blind and not seeing it in the announcement?

I rather like the idea of goblin sharks as actual goblins. I'm curious to see what the ether creatures are going to look like.

**Theophony**

Barzam wrote:
Do we have a date for Blood Reef? Or am I just blind and not seeing it in the announcement?

I rather like the idea of goblin sharks as actual goblins. I'm curious to see what the ether creatures are going to look like.

And you just told me yesterday that I should get ready for this release

.

**Barzam**

I just knew it is coming soon. I don't know when it goes live.

**Alpharius**

No hard date yet, just this:

I'm happy to say that AntiMatter Games will be launching a new Kickstarter for the DeepWars supplement "DeepWars - Blood Reef" in March.

So, sometime in March!

**Nostromodamus**

This tempts me every time, but there's just so many projects lately, not enough funds...

**DarkTraveler777**

Oh that shark! I want that shark!

**Alpharius**

Nostromodamus wrote:
This tempts me every time, but there's just so many projects lately, not enough funds...

It tempts me every time - and it forces me to scrape together the funds necessary to get...as much as possible!

Demoing the game at Adepticon a few years back convinced me that it was something I needed to have!

**DarkTraveler777**

I've never been clear on the difference between ShadowSea and DeepWars. Is it a situation like Warmachine and Hordes where the games are set in the same world but focus on different aspects of that world or are they completely different games?

**Barzam**

As far as I can tell, the difference is that Deepwars is underwater while Shadowsea is on dry land. Both share the same setting and certain units can be used in either ruleset.

**Alpharius**

Barzam wrote:
As far as I can tell, the difference is that Deepwars is underwater while Shadowsea is on dry land. Both share the same setting and certain units can be used in either ruleset.

That's pretty much it!

Many units that will work in Deep Wars (The Beast of Blood Reef (shark) shown here) but are clearly NOT OK in ShadowSea, for example!

**DarkTraveler777**

I think DeepWars would be more my speed. Need more underwater creatures in my collection, and of course that shark.

Thanks for the info guys.

**Piston Honda**

I'm interested just for the Merfolk

**AlexHolker**

Like Barzam, I think it's great that someone's making proper goblin shark-style goblins. And I love mermaids. I won't be backing, but I'll at least enjoy looking at the concept art.

**highlord tamburlaine**

I'll more than likely be all in, every other kickstarter (with the exception of Darklight) and impulse purchase be damned.

Haven't been disappointed in anything I've picked up from Antimattter. Which is quite a lot at this point!

**Veteran Sergeant**

Murmaider!

**Barzam**

I'll probably go in on this one to get one of the physical rulebooks. If there's a good deal on figures as well, that'll just be an extra bonus. They've been previewing a few of the new sculpts on Facebook. There's more than just the mermaids planned for this. They've shown a Fortune Hunter Engineer, who looks almost like a deep sea diver version of a Techmarine, and they've shown a medic for the Ancients of Atalan.

**Alpharius**

More previews, via the AntiMatter Games Facebook page!

So any infos when the KS will launch in march? Will it be eu backer friendly? So we don´t have to mess around with paying customs?

AntiMatter Games wrote:...It is looking like mid-to-late March, as we want to have more sculpting ready to show before starting. Things are looking good so far on that front. In terms of customs charges, we are working on that.

**Alpharius**

Almost time!

Update #58

Mar 14 2016
DeepWars - Blood Reef launching soon
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Hi all,

We are very close now to launching the Blood Reef Kickstarter project for DeepWars and ShadowSea.

Click on the picture below to go to the preview page for the project

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/524168246/1663356345?token=83eea7ff

We're working on another possible stretch goal, paper miniatures for all of the Shallow Shelf sea creatures, such as Gray Pointer Sharks, Cordoba Squid and the Beast of Kronos. These would be done by Brave Adventures paper minis. Check out their undead warband below.

http://www.braveadventures.com/wp-content/gallery/product-covers/undead-warband-cover-sm.png

**Barzam**

I'm looking forward to it. I do wonder if I'll be able to swap out the Nereids for something else though? Mermaids interest me about as much as centaurs, which is to say, not at all.

**Alpharius**

NOW LIVE!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/524168246/deepwars-blood-reef?ref=nav_search

And I'm backer number 1 - woo hoo!

**highlord tamburlaine**

Gotta decide if I want the big shark or cash it in for more goblin shark goblins when they eventually unlock...

**Alpharius**

Why can't it be both?

For the good of the campaign!!!

**Nostromodamus**

It's a little difficult to descern what minis are in the starter sets, and google isn't helping me. I wonder if they could modify their graphics to put a little icon next to the minis that are already in the starter sets?

They might also want to change their project tag to "tabletop games" rather than just "games", as it is not showing up in the "tabletop games" list.

**Alpharius**

I just navigate to their official website and check there, or hit up eBay and see what's what in each box.

I like your idea too though!