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Arrived today for Xbox One so haven't had a chance to get into it yet but was hoping maybe some other Dakkites also got it. I remember back when it was announced and they had hoped to integratte tablet use but things changed over time, unsuprisingly. What I have played is fun but it will take a little getting used to for the little things.

I don't have it (or the funds for that to be an option) but I've seen a lot of the marketing on youtube and so forth - it looks pretty interesting, but I'd be glad to hear what it's actually like to play. Is it a straight shoot-em-up, or story based? the marketing seemed a bit vague on what you actually get to do...

What I'd also really like to know is whether it's single-player compatible, seeing as I don't have gold membership for online play.

From what I've seen streamers play, it looks boring as feth. Just another 3rd person shooter, supposedly post-apoc but I see no survival elements or the feeling of limited resources.

Maybe the release version is better...

Got it for the pc and I'm thuroughly enjoying it.

It's definitely built for multiplayer, so while its possible to solo missions Dark Apostle its not an easy task by any stretch. Infact I'm not sure it even has an offline mode.

The game is first and formost a 3rd person shooter with MMO elements. Guns, gear, mods all affect stats and have color levels. You can have 2 active skills and your skill trees are unlocked by progressing the storyline.

Talents are slotted and at max lv you'll have four, and then you get perks, passives that are always in play. Skills, talents, and perks are all tied to leveling up your base.

The story isnt exactly post apoc I'd say. New York was hit with an engneered smallpox outbreak spread through money on black friday. While the big apple is a hellhole theres nothing to point out the rest of the worlds collapsed.Your part of a special agent team trying to restore order alongside the army enforcng martial law.

The gunplay is pretty solid. Every gun I've handled has felt uniqe and the mod slots increase custo,ization. Crafting is straightforward but touch of a gamble because of random stats. Gear changes your look subtly, if you like Destinys pauldrons you won find that here. Most of your customization is through appearence items you find which gives you a ragtag look.

You are not rambo by the way. Unless your about three lvs above your target you better use cover and if you have a team, flank. The guns are pretty lethal and chew through your hp fast.

Now its not all sunshine, this is a Ubisoft game afterall. Me and my crew have encountered a few game breaking glitches. Shooting baddies but causing no dmg, unable to pick up loot, lootcrates randomly locking if approached at a sprint. Most of these bugs though, while annoying can be fixed with tme or ligging in an out. Trading between players isn't n the game yet which is annoying but whatever we all get tons of loot anyway.

Now on Steam the current review is 'mixed' pay no attention to that. The reason is because when the NorthAmerican servers went live they were promptly overwhelmed and crashed for a half hour at best.

To which so many entitled little gakstains ran and began throwing up negative reviews and screaming about getting refunds... feth people.

Anyway thats my thoughts and info, if you got any questions fire away.

 Ahtman wrote:
Arrived today for Xbox One so haven't had a chance to get into it yet but was hoping maybe some other Dakkites also got it. I remember back when it was announced and they had hoped to integratte tablet use but things changed over time, unsuprisingly. What I have played is fun but it will take a little getting used to for the little things.

I got it. Don't remember if I have you on my friends list for XBL or not.

It's definitely an interesting little game. Had a ton of fun just doing side missions last night to get unlocks for the Security and Tech Wings.

BTW? First priority should be the Canine Unit for Security Wing. When you complete the side missions for a specific area(the ones from the Situation Officers/Bounty Boards) you then get all the Intels marked on your map.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:
Arrived today for Xbox One so haven't had a chance to get into it yet but was hoping maybe some other Dakkites also got it. I remember back when it was announced and they had hoped to integratte tablet use but things changed over time, unsuprisingly. What I have played is fun but it will take a little getting used to for the little things.

I got it. Don't remember if I have you on my friends list for XBL or not.

It's definitely an interesting little game. Had a ton of fun just doing side missions last night to get unlocks for the Security and Tech Wings.

BTW? First priority should be the Canine Unit for Security Wing. When you complete the side missions for a specific area(the ones from the Situation Officers/Bounty Boards) you then get all the Intels marked on your map.

Picked it up on ps4, any other tips for starting out as hear it's pretty vague in that regards.

 xKillGorex wrote:

Picked it up on ps4, any other tips for starting out as hear it's pretty vague in that regards.

Go for the utility upgrades before skills, unless you really want the skills or they require the unlock.

For my Medical Wing, I unlocked the Pharmacy and whatever the one which gives you the Support Station is first since they both enhance your "Protective Measures"(the level of which affects what kind of contaminated zones you can enter with no issues).
For the Security Wing, I unlocked the Canine Unit first and then basically just picked whatever unlocked vendors inside the Security Wing(Supply Line and Armory both unlock a Clothing and Advanced Weapons vendor respectively).
For Tech Wing, I went for the upgrade to the Turret because I like using the Turret with a Flamethrower.

ALSO! Almost forgot:
Do all the side missions for an area. It sends you back to the person who gave you the side missions and it gives you a level appropriate reward that is above what you normally would get.

Cheers bud, making a start tonight, can't wait to be fair.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Don't remember if I have you on my friends list for XBL or not.

I don't believe so. I think it come up but never ended up happening because everyone kept doing things and it just sort of got moved to the back burner.

I'm going to sit down with the game later tonight for a bit and work getting to and getting the upgrades mentioned.

Been playing it for a bit on the PC now. Liking it so far.

The mission to unlock the Electronics wing is a huge pain in the keister. Not so much the whole stage but the boss at the end. He has a flame thrower that seems to take most of your life from barely touching you when half a room away.

I was going to join someone then I saw they were level 24 and I was only level 6. So small and puny, am I.

 Ahtman wrote:
The mission to unlock the Electronics wing is a huge pain in the keister. Not so much the whole stage but the boss at the end. He has a flame thrower that seems to take most of your life from barely touching you when half a room away.

Explosive Rounds are your friend against Ol' Fiery. They can splash damage his tanks and deal a ton of damage.

I was going to join someone then I saw they were level 24 and I was only level 6. So small and puny, am I.

Probably for the best--found out after I joined a friend that it averages the group members' levels together and raises the mobs to match.

Got it on the PS4. My group of friends has pretty much shifted from Destiny to it. I like it. Very open world, love the weather effects.

Still has a repetitive feel to it that all shooters seem to have now a days. Level 15 now, and just starting to dabble in the Dark Zone. Things are definitely stepped up a notch in there.

Did my first real Darkzone excursions today, solo. Holy gak, that was some tense gak.

I also quite liked how the other players I came across were not the wankstains who'd shoot you on sight, unlike the beta. Funny enough we helped one another out with clearing the LZ's and then deposited our gains without killing one another, then went on our ways again.

 BrookM wrote:
Did my first real Darkzone excursions today, solo. Holy gak, that was some tense gak.

I also quite liked how the other players I came across were not the wankstains who'd shoot you on sight, unlike the beta. Funny enough we helped one another out with clearing the LZ's and then deposited our gains without killing one another, then went on our ways again.

My first excursion I found a group of 3 guys fighting, and I joined in. They proceeded to leave me alone afterwards. Some friends of mine were roaming, lvl 15 or so at the time, they ran across 2 lvl 25's, and those guys just instantly wiped the floor with them.

Still happening, but hopefully it'll be a little less common.

Okay, going to have to revisit that statement, I jumped back in and got ambushed by three guys after clearing a location of all enemies.

 djones520 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Did my first real Darkzone excursions today, solo. Holy gak, that was some tense gak.

I also quite liked how the other players I came across were not the wankstains who'd shoot you on sight, unlike the beta. Funny enough we helped one another out with clearing the LZ's and then deposited our gains without killing one another, then went on our ways again.

My first excursion I found a group of 3 guys fighting, and I joined in. They proceeded to leave me alone afterwards. Some friends of mine were roaming, lvl 15 or so at the time, they ran across 2 lvl 25's, and those guys just instantly wiped the floor with them.

Still happening, but hopefully it'll be a little less common.

You shouldn't be running into level 25 players, as the Dark Zone is bracketed by levels. 1-5, 6-10, 11-15, 16-20, 21-25, 26-29, 30.

The areas within the Dark Zone do have different levels for NPCs though. Certain areas just aren't meant for you to be going through them until 30 but rather than gate them off artificially they left it open.

 djones520 wrote:
Still has a repetitive feel to it that all shooters seem to have now a days.

I would say that it's essentially Diablo 3 with assault rifles.

I'm loving it right now. I'm level 24 and more or less keeping pace with the story missions, but I also do all of the side missions in an area to get gear blueprints (I love crafting!). The one thing that bothers me is how they scale mobs when your group isn't close in level. I helped my friend yesterday (who I vastly out-level) and even though he got decent XP for the kills, he couldn't do much damage and the gear drops were all two levels above him.

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:

 djones520 wrote:
Still has a repetitive feel to it that all shooters seem to have now a days.

I would say that it's essentially Diablo 3 with assault rifles.

I'm loving it right now. I'm level 24 and more or less keeping pace with the story missions, but I also do all of the side missions in an area to get gear blueprints (I love crafting!). The one thing that bothers me is how they scale mobs when your group isn't close in level. I helped my friend yesterday (who I vastly out-level) and even though he got decent XP for the kills, he couldn't do much damage and the gear drops were all two levels above him.

See, I'm actually really liking that. It encourages you to have an alternate character to play with lower level friends rather than have them just sit in the back and plink away at things that they can't really harm.

I'm having a hell of a time so far, the missions and the limited exp in DZ was fun. They have daily missions, if you set it on hard and complete it you get some nice loot.

Running into bosses thinking its just a patrol scared the hell out of me, they're literally scattered around the city.

 Big Mac wrote:
I'm having a hell of a time so far, the missions and the limited exp in DZ was fun. They have daily missions, if you set it on hard and complete it you get some nice loot.

Running into bosses thinking its just a patrol scared the hell out of me, they're literally scattered around the city.

I had that happen yesterday while doing Mission Persons: Bernard Gamble.

I just happened to look over the side of the building I was on, saw a patrol of 30+ LMB(10 rifles, 6 Engineers, 6 Heavies, and the rest a mix of Marksmen/Grenadiers/Shotgunners) led by--I kid you not--a group of 5 named guys. A Marksman, a Shield guy, an Engineer, a Grenadier, and a Heavy with a LMG.

Took them all on and won from my rooftop. Stupid xbox refused to record the clip of the last bit, which was EPIC. Detonated the backpacks of the Grenadiers/Heavies, detonated my flamethrower turret in the middle of all of them and just went to town with explosive bullets and a LMG.

So. Much. Loot.

OH! Also worth mentioning that if you run into the named guys and their cronies? They level scale compared to your level--and if you kill them while at 30? The named guys will always drop a small number of Phoenix Credits for you.

 Kanluwen wrote:
See, I'm actually really liking that. It encourages you to have an alternate character to play with lower level friends rather than have them just sit in the back and plink away at things that they can't really harm.

Well, the problem is that there is no real reason for multiple characters; there are no classes and every single skill is interchangable. I would prefer just to have your damage scaled down to the appropriate level.

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
See, I'm actually really liking that. It encourages you to have an alternate character to play with lower level friends rather than have them just sit in the back and plink away at things that they can't really harm.

Well, the problem is that there is no real reason for multiple characters; there are no classes and every single skill is interchangable. I would prefer just to have your damage scaled down to the appropriate level.

You're right that there's "no real reason for it", but it doesn't hurt you any to run with a friend on a lower level until you get closer together.

I think the reason for the other character is so you can have one for playing through with a friend(s) and one just for normal play.

I am enjoying playing this on PC atm. Its pretty generic and nothing special but what it does it does well.

Kanluwen wrote:You're right that there's "no real reason for it", but it doesn't hurt you any to run with a friend on a lower level until you get closer together.

Ahtman wrote:I think the reason for the other character is so you can have one for playing through with a friend(s) and one just for normal play.

Until your friend plays when you can't and then out-levels your other character. I've plays WoW on and off for almost a decade and that is something that always happens when you have a friend that is starting out. Also, this game sells itself by allowing people to seamlessly drop into your friend's game, which is kind of hard when the game can make your low level friend useless.


I'm pretty sure damage scaling is how D3 handles mismatched player levels.

I'm almost level 26, whereas my brother and his friend are just level 23 or so. A bit annoying as I don't feel like starting a new character right now.

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Well, the problem is that there is no real reason for multiple characters; there are no classes and every single skill is interchangable. I would prefer just to have your damage scaled down to the appropriate level.

It would make more sense to just not have your damage scale up as much in the first place. Some random looter shouldn't turn into a bullet sponge just because he's getting shot at by a seasoned veteran and not some rookie.

 BrookM wrote:
I'm almost level 26, whereas my brother and his friend are just level 23 or so. A bit annoying as I don't feel like starting a new character right now.

See, the difference between your group isn't going to be too significant.

It's when you have something like a 5-6 level gap that it becomes problematic.

 AlexHolker wrote:

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Well, the problem is that there is no real reason for multiple characters; there are no classes and every single skill is interchangable. I would prefer just to have your damage scaled down to the appropriate level.

It would make more sense to just not have your damage scale up as much in the first place. Some random looter shouldn't turn into a bullet sponge just because he's getting shot at by a seasoned veteran and not some rookie.

That's why I said "appropriate level." If you have gear that matches your level, mobs aren't bullet sponges (except for bosses and named elites, which is understandable). I'm not the biggest fan of carrying or being carried by high level buddies just face-rolling through enemies but I do like being able to team up with other people with mismatched levels and not have the game trivialized to one or both of us.

Destiny does something similar to this where your damage is capped depending on the enemy level; you and a low-level friend can do a mission or patrol and it's just like you are the same level, even if your buddy is level 11 and you're level 40.


On a side note, I hit 30 yesterday and started working towards gearing my Agent. I have almost all purples and High-End items, except for a chest armor (and hopefully I can fix that today when I get home from work) I haven't totally decided on what kind of build I want, but I'm leaning more towards a medic/support build. I'm using an assault rifle and a LMG right now and it's pretty fun, but I have my eye on getting a marksman rile (sniper classes are my preferred classes in other similar games). Replaying the final mission on hard mode is an awesome way to get purple loot as well; you can easily attain 5+ pieces in a single run! The daily challenge mission also gives a guaranteed piece of High-End gear (I got a face mask on my first one) and it is also repeatable, but pretty damn hard if your gear sucks or you don't know what you're doing.

Also, I play on Xbox One and my gamertag is xCRAIG CHRISTx if anyone is interested in hooking up to get some sweet, sweet loot.