Space Marine Bikers: MSU or Deathstar blob?

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**Lord Corellia**

Hey guys, I have about 10 Space Marine Bikes including a Sergeant with power fist (because Crimson Fists) as well as a Captain on a bike and an Attack Bike.

Are these best run as one giant blob or as 2-3 smaller squads?

**Slayer-Fan123**

2-3 smaller squads so that you can maximize your Special Weapons.

**Lord Corellia**

Ok, so something like

4 Space Marine Bikes; Sergeant with power fist and combi-grav, 2 grav guns, Attack Bike with multi-melta

4 Space Marine Bikes; 2 grav guns

Or should I split it up further? 2 specials in 3 bikes seems a little iffy. More ablative wounds would be better, no?

**Slayer-Fan123**

I typically do two normal Bikers, two with Grav or Melta, and depending on the list the Sergeant will carry a Combi-Weapon of the same nature.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Some people like to add Attack Bikes; I've just never done it as I've NEVER owned the model.

**mrveng**

Don't see attack bikes used as much in my LGS. I've seen units of 4 wreak havoc with grav and combo grav though.

**ZergSmasher**

I play Ravenwing and usually take a combination of Black Knights/RWCS, Full bike squad of 6 + Attack bike (so I can combat squad them), and one or two other small squads with 2 special weapons in each unit. Attack bike takes a MM for some very mobile and surprisingly durable anti-tank. I always take grav on the regular bikes, as bikes are the best platform for it.

**Slayer-Fan123**

There's just no point to Combat Squad for those Bikers though. It stops Special Weapon saturation when you try to do that.

**ZergSmasher**

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
There's just no point to Combat Squad for those Bikers though. It stops Special Weapon saturation when you try to do that.

Sorry, I should clarify. I usually run the big squad and combat squad them when I run the Lion's Blade detachment, as a Ravenwing Attack Squadron. That way I can have more bike units and still only have to take one Land Speeder (good when points are tight). When I take a Ravenwing Strike Force, I do prefer to MSU them. I don't have enough special weapon bikers, but I can probably get/convert some more, maybe a few with meltas.

**PanzerLeader**

I prefer 3 bikes (2 specials) + 1 attack bike. It still gives you 5 wounds and an extra special.

**mathaius90**

I'm sticking with the old (6th) squad count. 5 bikers with 2 specials and 1 Combi or PF. I like their resilience compared to 3 bikes. Usually i run 2 Melta squads, and add an attack bike with Multimelta for an extra AT weapon and a couple more wounds.

**edbradders**

I prefer to have 5 bikes and an attack bike in my squads; 1 sergeant, 2 special weapons, 2 meat shields, and an attack bike with multi melta. I have 5 of these squads in my white scars army.

**Saythings**

My friend likes to run:
Khan
CM - Smashfether with Hunter's Eye (Possibly just Auspex or both)
3x5 Command Squad - 4 Gravs & Apoth
2x3 Troop Bike - 2 Grav
2x3 Troop Bike - 2 Melta

He runs it with White Scars for 3+ Jink and passes Dangerous. I mean, who doesn't run White Scars when you play C:SM. I even run White Scars in my Drop Pod Gladius.

Don't get forget about adding Hunter's Eye in one of the squad and an Auspex if you want to get a force multiplier in there as well.