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I remember that the assassins used to be unique characters so only one of each could be taken in an army, however I have recently been challenged to a game in which my opponent is taking nothing but vindicares. I checked the dataslate and is just says: infantry(character), not unique.
Is this correct or am I incapable of reading?

Well, I certainly don't see unique on this dataslate at all...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDSuJxZWYAAWNL7.jpg

I need to check my Assassins Codex!

No longer unique.

They are no longer unique, but they are also no longer as great. Double check his weapon usage. The various ammo types changed with the latest iteration of their rules. For example, the turbo-penetrator round is no longer anywhere near as good at punching through tanks.

Also, they're horrifically ineffective against large numbers of models. In a straight match between 1850 points of Vindicares and 1850 points of Grots, I'd bet on the Grots every time. At best, in shooting, your Vindicare is killing a single 3 point model every turn.

 Kriswall wrote:
They are no longer unique, but they are also no longer as great. Double check his weapon usage. The various ammo types changed with the latest iteration of their rules. For example, the turbo-penetrator round is no longer anywhere near as good at punching through tanks.

Also, they're horrifically ineffective against large numbers of models. In a straight match between 1850 points of Vindicares and 1850 points of Grots, I'd bet on the Grots every time. At best, in shooting, your Vindicare is killing a single 3 point model every turn.

Which makes sense for a sniper assassin dude. Grots are like the hard counter to that.

Although 1850 points of Callidua vs 1850 points of Grots might be a different story, cuz, ya know, Flame templates. The moral of the story is don't field 1850 pts of the same unit (unless that unit is WraithKnights)

 Galef wrote:
Although 1850 points of Callidua vs 1850 points of Grots might be a different story, cuz, ya know, Flame templates. The moral of the story is don't field 1850 pts of the same unit (unless that unit is WraithKnights)

The Grots would likely still killcrush the Callidus Mob. With proper spacing (i.e. a full 2 inches between each model), a Flame Template can't actually kill that many Grots. Each shot kills maybe 4 Grots? That's 12 points of models. Each Callidus needs FAR more than 6 turns to earn its points back in the Shooting phase. The Grots will, of course, be in units of 20 (19 Grots and 1 Runtherd) with each 6 units having a Big Mek to lead them. That's 456 Grots, 24 Runtherds and 6 Big Meks w/Kustom Force Fields in 1828 points. You need a LOT of Flame Templates to clear out that sort of nonsense. You'd need to deal with them via close combat. Wiping a full unit is only taking out 62 points. Again, you'll need several turns of successful combat to wipe out enough units to make your points back. Realistically, it's like fighting zombies in a movie. They keep coming in waves. Very short, kind of green zombies.

What is that full grot list not a counter to in terms of "elite"armies?

Flying circus.

 Kriswall wrote:
They are no longer unique, but they are also no longer as great. Double check his weapon usage. The various ammo types changed with the latest iteration of their rules. For example, the turbo-penetrator round is no longer anywhere near as good at punching through tanks.

Also, they're horrifically ineffective against large numbers of models. In a straight match between 1850 points of Vindicares and 1850 points of Grots, I'd bet on the Grots every time. At best, in shooting, your Vindicare is killing a single 3 point model every turn.

Well technically, the turbo penetration round causes d3 wounds against non vehicle units. But yeah the grots wouldn't have much bother against a bunch of vindicares.

 Kriswall wrote:
In a straight match between 1850 points of Vindicares and 1850 points of Grots, I'd bet on the Grots every time. At best, in shooting, your Vindicare is killing a single 3 point model every turn.

I am horrified to think what a Grot did to warrant an assassin to be sent after it.
<edit> Or a GROUP of assassins sent to kill a GROUP of grots.
Or the extreme idiocy of the assassin allowing hundreds of grots to attack him if they are NOT their target.
Sometimes, even the fluff makes sense.

 Talizvar wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:
In a straight match between 1850 points of Vindicares and 1850 points of Grots, I'd bet on the Grots every time. At best, in shooting, your Vindicare is killing a single 3 point model every turn.

I am horrified to think what a Grot did to warrant an assassin to be sent after it.
Or the extreme idiocy of the assassin to have to fend off hundreds of grots.
Sometimes, even the fluff makes sense.

meanwhile, on the vindicare training planet of Olbek IX;

Grand Master Thorne: "Ok, let's see how they deal with the grots"

 General Kroll wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:
In a straight match between 1850 points of Vindicares and 1850 points of Grots, I'd bet on the Grots every time. At best, in shooting, your Vindicare is killing a single 3 point model every turn.

I am horrified to think what a Grot did to warrant an assassin to be sent after it.
Or the extreme idiocy of the assassin to have to fend off hundreds of grots.
Sometimes, even the fluff makes sense.

meanwhile, on the vindicare training planet of Olbek IX;

Grand Master Thorne: "Ok, let's see how they deal with the grots"

Pretty much. Either that or a Warp Storm caused their training vessel to veer off course and crash land on a planet overrun by Grots. Forge that Narrative!

To be fair, the vindicare is still good at what he should be good at. Yeah, one-shotting land raiders was amazing but he should never have been able to do that.

He excels at removing single models from units. Got an annoyin plasma cannon/missle launcher/whatever hiding in a tac squad? 2+ to hit, 2+ to wound, no more problem!

I played a 2000pt game a while back against some Tau, using only assassins.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/612016.page#7155976

It was pretty epic.

 jokerkd wrote:
To be fair, the vindicare is still good at what he should be good at. Yeah, one-shotting land raiders was amazing but he should never have been able to do that.

He excels at removing single models from units. Got an annoyin plasma cannon/missle launcher/whatever hiding in a tac squad? 2+ to hit, 2+ to wound, no more problem!

Indeed. Dude blew up my Apothecary out of my Ravenwing Command Squad once and that seriously hurt the survivability of the whole unit. Failed the look out sir! and that was it.