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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/21 15:46:44
Subject: [1850] - Necrons - Tourny List
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I welcome all feedback, i want a good list so please don't hesitate to question my thought process.
+++ Decurion Detachment (1846pts) +++
Canoptek Harvest
Canoptek Scarabs [3x Canoptek Scarab]
Canoptek Spyder [Twin-Linked Particle Beamer]
6x Canoptek Wraith [Whip Coils]
Reclamation Legion
9x Immortal [9x Gauss Blaster][Night Scythe]
Overlord [Resurrection Orb, Voidreaper]
5x Tomb Blade [Nebuloscope, Shield Vanes, Twin-linked Gauss Blaster]
Warriors [Ghost Ark, 10x Necron Warrior]
Warriors [Ghost Ark, 10x Necron Warrior]
Warriors [Ghost Ark, 10x Necron Warrior]
Warriors [Ghost Ark, 10x Necron Warrior]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/21 16:54:41
Subject: [1850] - Necrons - Tourny List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Ute nation
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Living tomb is a tough sell, it's almost a third of your points for a particle whip and a huge volume of S:7/ AP: - Tesla shots. An opponent who knows crons will just ignore them unless they have an abundance of heavy weapons. The size of the obelisk means it very possible to mishap, especially so if you are dropping it close to the enemy formations. If your opponent gets to place it you might as well throw those 300 points off of a cliff, because at 6" per turn it's going to be a while before it gets in range.
If your in love with the models, or playing for fun, try dropping the Ob in the middle of the board, and since the monolith doesn't scatter within 12", you can put it exactly where you want it on the following turn. The problem of course is that's 3+ turns with up to half your army in reserves.
I love Trazyn for denial of slay the warlord, and as long as you have a plan for moving your psuedo lych star about the board, they can be fun in CC. Going the sword and board route limits their targets (no str 7 ap 2 armor bane), and doesn't add as much to their toughness as you would hope.
In any case good luck!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/21 16:57:34
Subject: [1850] - Necrons - Tourny List
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So maybe run the lychguard without swords and boards, remove living tomb and get myself some more arks and warriors? Automatically Appended Next Post: If i do that, i can run 4 warriors with ghost arks, but i need to drop the immortals down to 8.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/21 19:15:27
Subject: [1850] - Necrons - Tourny List
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For a tournament list you have some odd choices. For starters the canopteck harvest usually is fielded as a min formation(possibly adding to the wraiths) for maximum mobility and the ability to deal with more threats. It's one of the best formations necrons have so its kinda a must for decurion lists.
I like the living tomb concept however it has some problems. As mentioned you're deep striking a huge model so mishaps can happen. Second is the monolith isn't a very points effecient choice.
Really I wish necrons had better super heavies, but with things like wraithknights toting D swords and stormsuges with D missles it's just tough for a robot. I still think the obolisk may have a place in competitive lists though because it's so good vs eldar jetbikes.
Trayzen isn't good, a combat overlord with lych would be better. But even better than that is another harvest. Justicar is also not a bad choice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/21 21:14:28
Subject: [1850] - Necrons - Tourny List
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So modified the original post for current comments.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/21 21:34:08
Subject: [1850] - Necrons - Tourny List
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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I am loving the super strong rec. legion. The RL is one of the strongest formations in the whole of 40k. Love the 4 strong ghost arcs. That's a serious amount of very mobile firepower.
I'd probably soupup your Overlord a little - he needs 4++ or 2+ (or both). Not too sure about the voidreaper. A warscythe will do the job just fine.
Keep the harvest to min. amount of wraiths and remember it's only a mid-tier formation. The three strongest are the Judicator Bn, Destroyer Cult and of course the superb RL.
You're a bit light on CC. I think you need either 7/9 scythe guard of 5/6 sword guard.Probably the latter. Stick your overlord with them and keep your units together. Shoot anything that comes near and when you en charge you, counter charge it with lychguard & overlord and slaughter your enemies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/22 15:14:39
Subject: [1850] - Necrons - Tourny List
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I was reading up on some conversations people had about moving the overlord into a ghost ark so that you can keep his reroll rp's of 1 more mobile. How exactly is that accomplished?
They were talking about having the lord jump in turn one since he cant start in there, but since the minimum unit size for warriors is 10, im confused, Do you have to pop one of your warriors out? Automatically Appended Next Post: Where should i take the points from to get the swords and boards?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/22 15:43:08
Subject: [1850] - Necrons - Tourny List
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Epartalis wrote:For a tournament list you have some odd choices. For starters the canopteck harvest usually is fielded as a min formation(possibly adding to the wraiths) for maximum mobility and the ability to deal with more threats. It's one of the best formations necrons have so its kinda a must for decurion lists.
I like the living tomb concept however it has some problems. As mentioned you're deep striking a huge model so mishaps can happen. Second is the monolith isn't a very points effecient choice.
Really I wish necrons had better super heavies, but with things like wraithknights toting D swords and stormsuges with D missles it's just tough for a robot. I still think the obolisk may have a place in competitive lists though because it's so good vs eldar jetbikes.
Trayzen isn't good, a combat overlord with lych would be better. But even better than that is another harvest. Justicar is also not a bad choice.
Pylons are a cheap and effective "oh crap" method of disrupting a players strategy and throwing out the D. Plus it can deep strike and CRUSH stuff as it falls. Did i mention the pylon is immune to melta and I believe gives and gets a cover save? I have seen an easer super heavy conversion either. So, really, youre only limited by imagination.
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37,500 pts Daemon Army of the Gods
35,000 pts - X - Iron Tenth
15,000pts - Firehawks
10,000 pts - Nighthaunt
 
Dkok - 1850
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/22 21:47:18
Subject: [1850] - Necrons - Tourny List
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Ute nation
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WikkedTiki wrote:I was reading up on some conversations people had about moving the overlord into a ghost ark so that you can keep his reroll rp's of 1 more mobile. How exactly is that accomplished? They were talking about having the lord jump in turn one since he cant start in there, but since the minimum unit size for warriors is 10, im confused, Do you have to pop one of your warriors out? Automatically Appended Next Post: Where should i take the points from to get the swords and boards? The idea is taking a CAD as well as a decurion, in the cad you can select a ghost arc as a fast attack instead of a dedicated transport. It can carry characters and warriors, so to try and get enough characters to fill it, you take a royal court (1 overlord, 3 lords, 3 crpyteks), take two HQ in the CAD (2 overlords), and then put your overlord from the decurion in the barge to bring it to 10. It's pants on head slowed, but I suppose the look on peoples faces when the ghost arc rolls up and 4 overlords, 3 lords, and 3 crypteks come jumping out and assault might be worth a giggle. It was such a stupid idea I couldn't help but actually put the list together: +++ slowed (1987pts) +++ ++ Necrons: Codex (2015) (Nec Decurion Detachment) (1437pts) ++ + Core (549pts) + Reclamation Legion (549pts) ···· Immortals (85pts) ········ 5x Immortal (85pts) [5x Tesla Carbine] ···· Overlord (150pts) [Phase Shifter (25pts), Resurrection Orb (25pts), Warscythe (20pts)] ···· Tomb Blades (54pts) ········ Tomb Blade (18pts) [Twin-linked Gauss Blaster] ········ Tomb Blade (18pts) [Twin-linked Gauss Blaster] ········ Tomb Blade (18pts) [Twin-linked Gauss Blaster] ···· Warriors (130pts) ········ 10x Necron Warrior (130pts) [10x Gauss Flayer] ···· Warriors (130pts) ········ 10x Necron Warrior (130pts) [10x Gauss Flayer] + Command (780pts) + Royal Court (780pts) ···· Cryptek (90pts) [Phase Shifter (25pts), Staff of Light] ···· Cryptek (90pts) [Phase Shifter (25pts), Staff of Light] ···· Cryptek (90pts) [Phase Shifter (25pts), Staff of Light] ···· Lord (120pts) [Phase Shifter (25pts), Resurrection Orb (25pts), Warscythe (20pts)] ···· Lord (120pts) [Phase Shifter (25pts), Resurrection Orb (25pts), Warscythe (20pts)] ···· Lord (120pts) [Phase Shifter (25pts), Resurrection Orb (25pts), Warscythe (20pts)] ···· Overlord (150pts) [Phase Shifter (25pts), Resurrection Orb (25pts), Warscythe (20pts)] + Auxiliary (108pts) + Deathmarks (108pts) ···· 6x Deathmark (108pts) [6x Synaptic Disintegrator] ++ Necrons: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) (550pts) ++ + HQ (275pts) + Overlord (150pts) [Phase Shifter (25pts), Resurrection Orb (25pts), Warscythe (20pts)] Overlord (125pts) [Phase Shifter (25pts), Warscythe (20pts)] + Troops (170pts) + Immortals (85pts) ···· 5x Immortal (85pts) [5x Tesla Carbine] Immortals (85pts) ···· 5x Immortal (85pts) [5x Tesla Carbine] + Fast Attack (105pts) + Ghost Ark (105pts) [2x Gauss Flayer Array, Quantum Shielding] Created with BattleScribe
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Constantly being negative doesn't make you seem erudite, it just makes you look like a curmudgeon. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/22 21:53:40
Subject: [1850] - Necrons - Tourny List
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Freaky Flayed One
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xSoulgrinderx wrote:Epartalis wrote:For a tournament list you have some odd choices. For starters the canopteck harvest usually is fielded as a min formation(possibly adding to the wraiths) for maximum mobility and the ability to deal with more threats. It's one of the best formations necrons have so its kinda a must for decurion lists.
I like the living tomb concept however it has some problems. As mentioned you're deep striking a huge model so mishaps can happen. Second is the monolith isn't a very points effecient choice.
Really I wish necrons had better super heavies, but with things like wraithknights toting D swords and stormsuges with D missles it's just tough for a robot. I still think the obolisk may have a place in competitive lists though because it's so good vs eldar jetbikes.
Trayzen isn't good, a combat overlord with lych would be better. But even better than that is another harvest. Justicar is also not a bad choice.
Pylons are a cheap and effective "oh crap" method of disrupting a players strategy and throwing out the D. Plus it can deep strike and CRUSH stuff as it falls. Did i mention the pylon is immune to melta and I believe gives and gets a cover save? I have seen an easer super heavy conversion either. So, really, youre only limited by imagination.
Your idea of Pylons are a bit outdated, D is locked to Skyfire now, still has interceptor, ITC allows for what I believe is noscatter deepstrike instead of it's old rule of moving models an inch away. It is not immune to Melta and it gives a 5+ invulnerable save within 12".
@ OP
I like your list; however, I recommend dropping some points and picking up Nemensor instead of the current Lord. If you can fit him in a Ghost Ark, you can let your models within 12" reroll 1s in the shooting phase which is pretty key with mass warriors blobs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/03/24 17:52:23
Subject: [1850] - Necrons - Tourny List
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Whacked wrote:
@ OP
I like your list; however, I recommend dropping some points and picking up Nemensor instead of the current Lord. If you can fit him in a Ghost Ark, you can let your models within 12" reroll 1s in the shooting phase which is pretty key with mass warriors blobs.
Yeah that would be better. Do i still need to do an extra CAD to get him in the ark? or can i have him in the night scythe with the immortals?
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