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A friend of mine has just boasted that his kustom stompa can fire 3d6 StrD shots, when I asked he said it was gaze of mork that gave him this. I think that he is BS me but I have never played against a kustom stompa before so could I have some comfirmation?

 mrhappyface wrote:
A friend of mine has just boasted that his kustom stompa can fire 3d6 StrD shots, when I asked he said it was gaze of mork that gave him this. I think that he is BS me but I have never played against a kustom stompa before so could I have some comfirmation?

Ask him to show you the rule in his codex. (Or datasheet or formation rules etc...)

The next time I see him is when I play against him and this rule will change what I take against him.

He couldn't be more wrong.

3 shots at random (might be D) strength.

IA8 P140

Yep, it's definitely not 3d6 StrD shots. Are you sure that's what he meant?

 mrhappyface wrote:
A friend of mine has just boasted that his kustom stompa can fire 3d6 StrD shots, when I asked he said it was gaze of mork that gave him this. I think that he is BS me but I have never played against a kustom stompa before so could I have some comfirmation?

Here is the profile from Imperial Armour 8 for the Gaze of Mork weapon...

Gaze of Mork Range:60" STR:2D6* AP:2 Type:Heavy 3 *Roll 2D6 to determine the strength of the Gaze of Mork's attacks each time you fire it, on a roll of '11' or '12' it inflicts hits as per a Destroyer attack.

Definitely doesn't deal 3D6 D hits. At best, and only if you roll an 11 or 12 on 2D6, you'll get 3 D hits.

From memory, the strength is 2d6. 11-12 = D strength. Ap2 heavy 3?

 r_squared wrote:
Yep, it's definitely not 3d6 StrD shots. Are you sure that's what he meant?

This is the text I recieved: "Tell that invulnerable save and hull points to
3*3d6 D shots"

It's against forum tenets for us to post the rules in their entirety, but i can tell you:
- Kustom Stompas are Forgeworld, so it won't be in his codex. The rules for Kustom Stompas are in Imperial Armour Volume 8 on page 193.
- The Gaze of Mork(or Gork) weapon profile can be found on page 140 and 142.
- It is NOT 3D6 Strength D attacks

As a side note, Dakka's Forgeworld rules location index lists it as Incompatible with the current Ork Codex - http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index#Orks

Edit: i took WAY too long to hit "Submit" on this, ninja'd by half of dakka.

 Kriswall wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:
A friend of mine has just boasted that his kustom stompa can fire 3d6 StrD shots, when I asked he said it was gaze of mork that gave him this. I think that he is BS me but I have never played against a kustom stompa before so could I have some comfirmation?

Here is the profile from Imperial Armour 8 for the Gaze of Mork weapon...

Gaze of Mork Range:60" STR:2D6* AP:2 Type:Heavy 3 *Roll 2D6 to determine the strength of the Gaze of Mork's attacks each time you fire it, on a roll of '11' or '12' it inflicts hits as per a Destroyer attack.

Definitely doesn't deal 3D6 D hits. At best, and only if you roll an 11 or 12 on 2D6, you'll get 3 D hits.

Thanks, also is that on any kustom stompa? He is taking three.

 mrhappyface wrote:

 r_squared wrote:
Yep, it's definitely not 3d6 StrD shots. Are you sure that's what he meant?

This is the text I recieved: "Tell that invulnerable save and hull points to
3*3d6 D shots"

Yea, that text does not make any sense, maybe ask him to clarify?

 mrhappyface wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:

 mrhappyface wrote:
A friend of mine has just boasted that his kustom stompa can fire 3d6 StrD shots, when I asked he said it was gaze of mork that gave him this. I think that he is BS me but I have never played against a kustom stompa before so could I have some comfirmation?

Here is the profile from Imperial Armour 8 for the Gaze of Mork weapon...

Gaze of Mork Range:60" STR:2D6* AP:2 Type:Heavy 3 *Roll 2D6 to determine the strength of the Gaze of Mork's attacks each time you fire it, on a roll of '11' or '12' it inflicts hits as per a Destroyer attack.

Definitely doesn't deal 3D6 D hits. At best, and only if you roll an 11 or 12 on 2D6, you'll get 3 D hits.

Thanks, also is that on any kustom stompa? He is taking three.

If he's taking 3 Kustom Stompas, then he'd be able to take a Gaze of Mork on each of them. Out of curiosity, what sort of lists are you playing? IA8 isn't currently for sale and was written for 5th Edition Warhammer 40k. Assuming you're allowing the Kustom Stompa as a Lords of War choice for the current Codex: Orks, you'd need to take 3 Combined Arms Detachments to field 3 of them. I'm curious to know what the rest of his list looked like.

The most recent mentioning of gaze of mork is in GW apocalypse. Its profile is 60" S D ap2 heavy1
This weapon is really bad when you consider the BS of the stompa.

The gaze of mork weapon in IA8 is something else entirely. It is 60" S2d6 (11-12 = SD) ap2 heavy 3

Battle scribe uses the Apocalypse version not sure if this is correct since the kustom stompa is in IA8

He might be confused by the Deff arsenal. That thing is worded a bit strange in IA8.

IA8 wrote:.. In addition to the stompa's regular configuration of weapons this upgrade adds loads of extra guns. In fact there are so many gunz that it is impossible to load and fire them all! Roll 3d6 at the start of each Shooting phase to see how many extra shots the stompa gets..

There is no weapon profile on that page* and it is listed in a general stompa equipment list containing weapons and all sorts of upgrades. So one might confuse it for an upgrade that gives you 3d6 extra shots.

* it is hidden in the reference sheet just a few pages before this page.

 Kriswall wrote:

If he's taking 3 Kustom Stompas, then he'd be able to take a Gaze of Mork on each of them. Out of curiosity, what sort of lists are you playing? IA8 isn't currently for sale and was written for 5th Edition Warhammer 40k. Assuming you're allowing the Kustom Stompa as a Lords of War choice for the current Codex: Orks, you'd need to take 3 Combined Arms Detachments to field 3 of them. I'm curious to know what the rest of his list looked like.

I don't know what he is taking but I am planning on taking the daemonic incursion formation with a Chaos knight. Honestly neither of us are that bothered about CAD.

If you are using IA8 then you migt as well be using the hidden FW file that allows Kustom stompa's ( and all sorts of other FW super heavies ) as LOW's.

Bringing 3 kustom stompas isn't that hard since Ork CADs are quite cheap. Most of my recent lists contain 2-3 CADs with grots as troops. Having 60 grots and a fearless aura isn't that bad at all.
6 units grots will be 210 points and each Kustom stompa can be bought for as cheap as 410 points. A gaze of mork would cost 50 points extra

If he is using the dirty "discount stompa" trick then he can only field that one since fw dread mob IA8 update restricts you from taking an other LOW in the entire army if you buy it that way.

I'll bare that in mind.

Also could someone explain to me what the deff arsenal is for?

It's a weapon that (fluffwise) consists of a bunch of guns strapped together.

Lots of shots, pretty high strength. No Str D.

The deff arsenal is a weapon upgrade. It has a profile on page 140 of ia8 under "shootas and sluggas"

As oldzoggy pointed out. The description of it on page 141 is a bit misleading, as it says something along the lines of "roll 3d6, thats how many additional shots the stompa can make"

If you missed the fact that the deff arsenal has its own profile, it would be easy to assume that it meant any weapon could fire those additional shots

Thanks.