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Hey folks!

So, I've recently developed an itch to dive into the world of Warhammer 40k. I am more or less completely new to the game, and because of that I am having a difficult time nailing down a solid 1000-1500 point list. I was intrigued by the idea if an all Nurgle army, but in researching that I've seen a lot of posts which suggest that a strictly Nurgle army can only be successful in very limited circumstances, and outside of those it just can't cut it. That being said, I did watch a battle report where George Getaroth's 1875 pt all Nurgle force completely wrecked his Ork opponent, so I guess it can get there??

So I'm at a loss, and could really use some help from veteran players in assembling a list. I'm not married to the idea of Nurgle fluff, I just like it a lot - but if I'm going to spend half a thousand dollars on a list I'd like that list to be able to hold its own. I guess that's it! Looking forward to any help you all can provide.

Thanks!

Can you list what George Getaroth had in his army?

Mono nurgle armies can be amazing in almost any circumstance

Hey guys, thanks for the replies! I'm happy to see someone say that mono Nurgle can be amazing. Any idea why there seems to be such a strong divergence of opinion on this issue?

I'll do my best to accurately post George's list, but as I am new there may be mistakes (I'm not hip to the lingo).

George Getaroth's Flying Nurgle Circus (1850 pts):

10x Plague Bearer unit, combined arms attachment.
3x Nurgle Daemon Prince w/ Bilesword, Mark of Nurgle, Wings, re-roll invuln saves, Mastery level 1, psychic shriek (One of the three has the following GG: Bilesword and +4 Feel no Pain)
1x Great Unclean One (as he comes), bilemancy
1x Be'Lakor
6x Nurglings
1x Chaos Space Marine?? (Not sure what unit this actually is) Level 3 Psyker w/ Power Armor, Spell Familiar, Wings, Mark of Nurgle, Psychic Shriek, Invisibility, Summoning
1 unit of cultists, not sure how many in the unit.

This is a link to the Battle Report featuring the army.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbeRFL3OnBk&nohtml5=False

Without watching the battle report:

1. The Chaos Space Marine is a Chaos Sorcerer with Mastery Level 3 attached to a unit of cultists (cheapest troops a CSM arm y can take).

2. Some of the items on the Daemon Princes are called "Greater Rewards'. You pay for these rewards in your list building, but the actual effect is random each game (roll on a D6 chart). The Balesword (not bilesword) is one you can give them if you trade in a reward for it automatically.

So for each Daemon Prince the build would be:

Daemon Prince of Nurgle w/ Wings, Mastery Level 1, 2x Greater Rewards.

I would give them armor, and I would also try to get their Mastery Level up to Level 3.

I don't see the CSM detachment helping much honestly. If I was going to build something like that I think it would be:

Thank you for the response, Unclean One. Is there any way I can get a sort of tactical pros and cons list of a build like that? Also, any recommendations for resources that would help me start comprehending some of this stuff would be greatly appreciated.

This type of build is often referred to as a "Flying Circus".

Pro: It's monetarily inexpensive compared to other armies. A GUO is like $70, 3x Daemon Princes are about $40/each, Belakor is about $40, and 2 units of Plaguebearers are about $50 ($25/each). So total cost is under $300, pretty hard to beat that.

Pro: It's scary to go against, and can be a pain to kill without the right tools. It has a strong (not the strongest, but good) psychic presence for buffs and witchfires.

Con: It's fallen out of favor due to the new mission type added in 7th edition called "Maelstrom" which is turn by turn scoring, usually objective markers on the table.

Con: There's not much room for error/forgiveness. Losing any of your big daemons is a huge chunk of your army, and they can potentially be 1-shot by lots of weapons. Anything that is Strength 10, Strength D, or causes "Instant Death" can 1 shot a Daemon Prince who isn't buffed up with psychic powers.

Con: Daemons can be a bit wonky with lots of random tables. Psychic Powers aren't 100% reliable either, so it's going to be a weird first army I think. But rewarding if you figure it out.

For resources:

First and always, get a copy of the Rulebook. The cheapest way to get it is to go on eBay buy the small version from the Dark Vengeance set. It usually goes for like $30.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dark-Vengeance-Mini-Warhammer-40K-Rule-book-7th-Edition-New-/252348997708?hash=item3ac12c204c:g:MmAAAOSwVFlT1WUC

Next get a copy of the Daemons codex.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Codex-Chaos-Daemons-EN

Daemons recently got an update with a supplement found in the "Curse of the Wulfen" campaign book. It has new relics, psychic powers, formations, and warlord traits. Definitely worth getting, but this isn't necessary until you build your army up and figure out how the basic parts of the game work first. Formations can be confusing to new players.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Curse-of-the-Wulfen

Thanks, I'll check all of that out.

Would there be a way to make something more balanced that still stays true to the mono Nurgle theme? I'm being told that something like this sort of limits my capacity to play.

It's tough to limit yourself to one god for a strong list. You can make fun lists sure, but they're not going to be super competitive.

For Daemons, good Nurgle choices are:

1. Daemon Prince of Nurgle for your HQ
2. Plaguebearers and/or Nurglings for troops choices
3. Plague Drones, often accompanied by a herald with the "Grimoire of True Names"
4. Soul Grinders of Nurgle with Phlgem Bombardment.

For Chaos Space Marines:

1. Chaos Lord with mark of Nurgle on a Bike with Powerfist/Lightning Claw. Other upgrades to flavor.
2. Plague Marines with Meltaguns/Plasma Guns in a rhino
3. Chaos Spawn with Mark of Nurgle to accompany the biker lord
4. Chaos Bikers with Mark of Nurgle
5. Maulerfiends (not truly nurgle, but they're not aligned with any god) Paint them green
6. Obliterators with Mark of Nurgle


There's a million possibilities and builds, so I'd suggest you do some more research into what you want.

Most of the time it's best to start with 1 HQ choice and 2 troops. If you go Daemons I'd probably get a Daemon Prince and then a box of Plaguebearers and a Box of Nurglings. This will give you almost a 500 point army.




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I almost forgot, there's a nice new box set out for Daemons of Nurgle. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Start-Collecting-Daemons-of-Nurgle

Pick that up and a Daemon Prince of Nurgle and you can probably get to almost 750+ points depending on upgrades. It's a pretty good deal.

Alright, cool. How do you feel about the "Let's Start Collecting" Nurgle set? Also I do kind of want to get a Great Unclean One just because I mean, come on...that Forgeworld model is great.

I added the Start Collecting in my edit post. It's a good deal.

Great Unclean Ones aren't super good because they're so slow. But they are pretty badass, and the Forgeworld model is definitely fantastic. Up to you, but I'd probably pick that up later when you move to 1500+

By Daemon Prince are you referring to this bad boy?

http://www.amazon.com/Games-Workshop-Nurgle-Daemon-Prince/dp/B0053TMK7O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1460163262&sr=8-1&keywords=daemon+prince+of+nurgle

Yeah I like that one. The only issue is it doesn't have wings, or options to add them without conversion work. It doesn't really matter, but I always felt odd about him flying without them so I gave him a jetpack.

Alternative chocie is to just buy the plastic daemon prince kit. He's not as Nurgley, but he is still a good choice. Also the Nurgle prince kit is Finecast, which is kind of a pain in the ass to glue.

Plastic kit: http://www.amazon.com/Daemon-Prince-Plastic-Warhammer-Fantasy/dp/B003YKHZLK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_21_6?ie=UTF8&dpID=516mgLUEuCL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=140MBZV02EMF41H86P26

Some pretty low cost options on Ebay it looks like. Pre-painted and assembled which takes some of the fun out of it, but a forge world Daemon prince for 35 bucks doesn't seem too bad. Beats the 200 on that amazon price.

Those are often re-casts. Be careful, the quality can be gak. I have no experience with buying that so I can't be too helpful.

We've gone off topic about lists and army building now rather significantly. Feel free to message me if you have any model questions, or post in the appropriate forum.

For sure, thank you.

Hubbington wrote:
Hey folks!

So, I've recently developed an itch to dive into the world of Warhammer 40k. I am more or less completely new to the game, and because of that I am having a difficult time nailing down a solid 1000-1500 point list. I was intrigued by the idea if an all Nurgle army, but in researching that I've seen a lot of posts which suggest that a strictly Nurgle army can only be successful in very limited circumstances, and outside of those it just can't cut it. That being said, I did watch a battle report where George Getaroth's 1875 pt all Nurgle force completely wrecked his Ork opponent, so I guess it can get there??

So I'm at a loss, and could really use some help from veteran players in assembling a list. I'm not married to the idea of Nurgle fluff, I just like it a lot - but if I'm going to spend half a thousand dollars on a list I'd like that list to be able to hold its own. I guess that's it! Looking forward to any help you all can provide.

Thanks!

Hi Guy's.

A friend of mine told me about this post so I thought it would be nice to comment.

My list is themed around fielding as many flying Princes as possible - so standard CAD with allies CSM for the extra Prince.

HQ

Great Unclean One
190pts

Be’lakor
350pts

Troops

Plaguebearers
90pts

Nurglings
x 6 90pts

Heavy support

Daemon Prince
Daemon of Nurgle
Daemonic flight
Greater Reward x 2
Psyker Mastery 1
x 3 795pts

Allies HQ

Daemon Prince
Daemon of Nurgle
Wings
Psyker Mastery 3
Power Armour
Spell Familiar
285pts

Allies Troops
Chaos Cultists
50pts


Tactic is to spam Psychic streak and with the latest FAQ you no longer need to roll to hit
GUO and the CSM Prince (because of the spell familiar this done easier) will summon every turn, the rest of your dice is used for ether invis with Be'l or all your Psychic streaks.