KDK Tactics: What Weapon is Best to Pair with a Goredrinker?

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**Vache Glace**

I would like to include a GD in my KDK list, but I'm having trouble deciding what weapon to pair it with. The problem I have is that I'm finding that it not worth it to lose out on the extra attack just for re-rolling to wound. I still find it a tad odd that the GD is not a specialist weapon.

e.g. If a Lord charges (without any attack or hatred modifiers) here are are two attacks with an LC and a Pwr Lance respectively:

5 specialist LC attacks, 3.33 hit, (1.66+0.72), 2.38 wounds against T4 at ap3
6 regular power lance attacks, 3.9 hit, 2.66 wounds against T4 at ap3

With the extra blood tithe attack it's 2.95 specialist wounds vs. 3.11 lance and the lance is better vs. vehicles. If I'm facing anything that makes AP4 useful the power maul is much, much better. I could mathhammer the other types of power weapon as well.

Here are all the options to go along with the GD:

Power Axe
Power Sword
Power Maul
Power Lance
Power Fist
Chain Axe
Lightning Claw
Axe of Khorne

Any suggestions? Thanks!

**Drasius**

Bolt pistol, cause it's free.

Edit: Also, you're math is out. Should be 5 attacks, 3.33 hits, 2.5 wounds against T4 for the LC and 6 attacks, 4 hits and 2.66 wounds for the lance against T4. To be fair though, the lance is only +1 str on the charge, but I guess you're hoping to power up goredrinker on the charge, since the lance is 4 attacks, 2.66 hits, 1.33 wounds and 0.44 unsaved wounds against T4 3+ in subsequent rounds (or if you get charged).

Also also, why isn't your lord on a juggernaught?

**Captyn_Bob**

Bolt pistol does have a lot going for it.

**chaosmarauder**

I like power sword for attacks at init with ap3 + the bonuses from goredrinker + 1 str usually for being on a juggernaught +1 attack for 2 melee weapons

**jackyratos**

Lightning claws for I5, shred and AP3.

**Tonberry7**

Lightning Claw and Combat Familiar every time, and hit a soft target first. You want to cause as many wounds as possible to boost the Goredrinker tally quicker.

**Vache Glace**

Would a combat familiar's added attacks gain the Shred USR from the Lightning claw?? A bit unsure

**Slayer-Fan123**

No. They're two separate attacks done at AP-.

**ZergSmasher**

Vache Glace wrote:
Would a combat familiar's added attacks gain the Shred USR from the Lightning claw?? A bit unsure

I think the Combat Familiar's attacks use a set profile rather than the profile of the weapon. Don't quote me on that, I'm not 100% sure, but I think he does not benefit from weapon special rules.

**Tonberry7**

ZergSmasher wrote:
Vache Glace wrote:
Would a combat familiar's added attacks gain the Shred USR from the Lightning claw?? A bit unsure

I think the Combat Familiar's attacks use a set profile rather than the profile of the weapon. Don't quote me on that, I'm not 100% sure, but I think he does not benefit from weapon special rules.

Yes that's right, the familiar attacks are a set profile, you don't get the Shred from the LC. But they count as being made by the model so any wounds will contribute to the Goredrinker tally.

**chaosmarauder**

jackyratos wrote:
Lightning claws for I5, shred and AP3.

Goredrinker is not a specialist weapon - you lose one attack with a claw compared to a power sword. Plus you are attacking with str 5 so shred is not a huge bonus

**AlmightyWalrus**

Axe of Khorne in my opinion. At-initiative AP2 is much more valuable than one attack.

**Roknar**

chaosmarauder wrote:
jackyratos wrote:
Lightning claws for I5, shred and AP3.

Goredrinker is not a specialist weapon - you lose one attack with a claw compared to a power sword. Plus you are attacking with str 5 so shred is not a huge bonus

The extra attack makes almost no difference given the amount of attacks you have. Shred will give you slightly more actual wounds even.
You're going to pick a unit that let's you boost goredrinker fast and shred means you'll be causing roughly the same amount of wounds as you would with +1 attack in the beginning, but as soon as you get rampage you will deal more wounds with the claw.

The power sword isn't really a contest. The axe on the other hand means hitting with AP2 at iniative which might be more important to you than ramping up goredrinker. But goredrinker is alreadyAP2 so meh. I prefer to roll with the claw and let other stuff deal with those threats.

**Slayer-Fan123**

The extra attack matters for Goredrinker though.

**Roknar**

That's true, but it only matters if you actually intend to use goredrinker itself. That hasn't really been the case for me. At least not often enough to take the sword over a claw or an axe. So I never really considered that.

I suppose that would be the equivalent of the LC+PF combo given the bonuses the sword gets. I wouldn't say it's the best option, but it is the cheapest solution that still makes sense.
I guess there is place for the powersword after all then.