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We like rivets in all it's forms, be it model or terrain- we do not discriminate ^^

i was watching an British show scrapyard king (or something like that). and the bloke found an old stair and began to explain why this was so valuable : it has a steampunk vibe and what makes it extra special are these blue rivets........

I was laughing hysterical and my mom called the loony house

fatty wrote:i was watching an British show scrapyard king (or something like that). and the bloke found an old stair and began to explain why this was so valuable : it has a steampunk vibe and what makes it extra special are these blue rivets........

I was laughing hysterical and my mom called the loony house

scrapheap challenge?

i dunno he bought old stuff for 5 bucks and sells it for like 500 bucks

Ah, not that then- scrapheap challenge is where two teams of 4 get let loose in a scrapyard with some tools and a workshop and are given a day to build a vehicle of some kind to do a specific course to do something, fastest wins- like there was a vehicle to go along a really muddy field, over steep inclines and stuff to get a car out of a bog and then make it back first, or a race to drive along a track, then along a lake. Very interesting.

dsteingass wrote:Speaking of the Rivet Article...I looked, there really isn't a sub-category under PAINTING and MODELING that seems to fit something as generic as riveting under the Dakka Articles section. How do you classify riveting? It can be used for miniatures and terrain both??

i had that look already too... and this made me feel that we have a duty...because it IS essential to the right factions to have substantial riveted stuff for their models...

oh...and there is a fourth version...rawson used the drill and rod method... and even the filter balls and drill methode should then be portrayed as well...

really if i was better in the writing i should have done that way earlier...

I think that there really needs to be a comprhensive scratch modeling article. I would write that. Where do you guys think it should go? And who would be willing to help on the GS and Mini parts?


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Imagine a =][_,= sponsored article!

i think that article is overdue... really... and for the mini part... either jake... or get ishkatar do that... both are in my view excellent sculpters and need to asked for that...

and it would be an article in the P&M department...if you do this you get lotsa pics of each member and you include them as you see fit... just say the word and we jumpt to it^^

and as it is an article you can always add new stuff to it so there is no real pressure here... imagine what this might be for the league... when i visit the mainpage of dakka all the time the same stuff in the artcle section apears... now imagine the tasty article of making rivtes shows up every now and then...need i say more? ^^

Ok, word is given. i will start a forward to the article and get together a itinerate list of topics to be included in the initial edit.

RIVETEERS!!!! Start your list of topics you want to see included and I will incorporate them.


Vik: Do we have a comprehensive list of LoER members? I want to include a list.

Dave, Terrain is your forte. Do you want to handle that part?

Various methods of making rivets
Various types of rivet
Various uses of rivets
Various League of Extraordinary Riveters members
Various variations of the above

Good, Shrike, back in the hole now, don't forget the lotion......

Various variations of the above

that has to be done as an aftermath lol


but the list is as sound as it gets...

oh...we have to inculde emossed rivets too...i did them and dave did them on his first tower for his ´munda terrain too...


and the list of members...er... not that i know off...but from the top of my head...:

dsteingass
Eziekiel
Galorn
Hazzer
lone dirty dog
monkeytroll
mxwllmdr
rawson
RSJake
shasolenzabi
shrike
and someone i am currently not able to name but that guy is coincidentally at the mack of that list because of the alphabet...

I would like to nominate The_Blackadder for membership. Not only because he is fantastic, but also because I think that he would be the perfect contributer for the scale and proportions section of the article.


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Are you referring to Grand Moff Vikington?


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I am considering further modeling inclusion, as well.

My current list would include major topics like:

Tools and equipment
Materials and their individual uses
Scale and proportion


Then I was thinking break it down into classes of models:

Minis
Tanks
Walkers
Terrain and buildings (a section for which I humbly nominate Dave to write)
Wheeled vehicles
Flyers
et. al.....


Can I also suggest a LoER FAQs and Q&A thread?

Maybe started by Dave or Vik and manned like tech support dweebs by all of us?

The_Blackadder

if he wants to join... his stuff is off the scale...no argueing there^^

also i think you should get help from each member that is able to provide stuff...

and yep...i was referring to that character^^

and i like how you quickly came up with that list of topics... seems to have slumbered in you for some time too^^

and that LoeR thread sounds nice... help desk for riveting...or even better...the riveted helpdesk...LOL

Well, Vik, make it happen and be sure to link to it in your thread.....

ok... but i need to think about an opener first... i tackle that tomorrow...i think i have an idea...

And, yes, I have been thinking about this for some time. with the advent of every new talented scratch builder that comes around I have noticed that the hunger for how to is quite strong. there needs to be a place for that information to be there for anyone who wants it.

This informal sharing of things and techniques that we enjoy as our threads progress needs a clearing house for storage so that people don't have to keep asking the same questions over and over.

I read Tebrey's Plasticard 101 on the Boot Camp when I started and as good as it was it was still very limited as to the ins and outs of actually making something.

I feel this is the time, place and group of people to make this happen.....

even though i am not a member (yet) id like to help with the article.

i also think you should add a part about painting around rivets. there is a very different way to paint weathering around rivets as they are the perfect place to paint rust and oil marks

i am absolutly with you... and you put the finger on the aching point alright!

also... i think it is a duty... we have collected a very huge mass of information and expierience and the so called think tank of the league or even dakka should spread out it´s knowledge...the only way to progress... and one might never know who comes out of his lurking state then and shares some gems we haven´t even thought about...


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there is a very different way to paint weathering around rivets as they are the perfect place to paint rust and oil marks

that is a good point my friend!...

thank the lords that the league have no celibacy built in theoir charter... breeding new members is way too slow...

and i know for a fact that soon there will be a new wave of memberships to the league... growing hand in hand with good modelers is also the only way... fresh blood and all^^

i think i have an old white dwarf lying around with a painting article about weathering around rivets. i'll have a look tomorrow

sounds good!


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by the way...max... i asked him...

Good, maybe we can get him on board....


I would really like him to do the scale and proportions area.....


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Also, Fatty, if you can get that White dwarf scanned and send it my way for inclusion.....

well did you read my post in his thread yet?

also i would love to read that one for my own interests as well^^

Ok I'm in!

Couple things...

1. I think it is important that for each type of riveting technique shown, we MUST have at least one fully painted (and/or weathered) pic example (even if the rivet method includes one or more unpainted pics)

2. How about we build an outline to keep it organized?
Maybe with hyperlinks in the TOC to the relevant section?

example:

Model Riveting
Presented by the -=]_.=-

I. Why Rivet?
II. Riveting Methods
a. Sliced rod method
1. dsteingass section
2. mxwllmdr's section
b. Water Filter bead method
1. Rawson's section
etc.
etc.

3. How about TOOLS and MATERIALS appendicies? full of pictures of the tools, maybe even links to webstores, etc.
Can we do hotlinks in the article like Dakka does with abbreviations? That would be cool if we could. Then the TOC would link to the section, and the tool names would link to the appendix.

4. I think we should purposely mention the -=]_,=- often, but we should NEVER come right out and say what we are...I think that will lead the reader to wonder, add a little mystery


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I have an assload of old WD magazines, if you know the WD# I may have it right here.

mxwllmdr wrote:I would like to nominate The_Blackadder for membership. Not only because he is fantastic, but also because I think that he would be the perfect contributer for the scale and proportions section of the article.


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Are you referring to Grand Moff Vikington?


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I am considering further modeling inclusion, as well.

My current list would include major topics like:

Tools and equipment
Materials and their individual uses
Scale and proportion


Then I was thinking break it down into classes of models:

Minis
Tanks
Walkers
Terrain and buildings (a section for which I humbly nominate Dave to write)
Wheeled vehicles
Flyers
RIVETING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
et. al.....


Can I also suggest a LoER FAQs and Q&A thread?

Maybe started by Dave or Vik and manned like tech support dweebs by all of us?

How could I forget to add that? Must have been an ommision of obvious inclusion......

Sounds cool, kind of like an all-in-one guide to riveting you have planned ^^
I won't be much help though, since I'm inexperienced and have no fresh ideas that hasn't already been covered
I reckon as you do the how-to's, the first time you mention a specific non-standard tool (i.e: not clippers/hobby drill, but hole punchers, specific craft knives, etc.), include a hyperlink to a website where you can buy one.
And I think we should say "brought to you by the LoER", but don't do any self promotions unless you include pictures covered in your blogs, and say at the end of the picture "for more pictures and stuff, it can be found on ____'s thread, here: www._________"

*rubs hands* that sounds so cool... i like how this party is starting!

but i have to say... much of the really cool sounding stuff you just mentioned i can´t do as i am too noobish around all that hidden coded stuff in a document...

also i ahve to say... i want to help as much as possible...but if it werent for my wiofe...my exams work...i couldn´t have done it myself...i am way too crazy unorganized...^^

dsteingass wrote:Ok I'm in!

Couple things...

1. I think it is important that for each type of riveting technique shown, we MUST have at least one fully painted (and/or weathered) pic example (even if the rivet method includes one or more unpainted pics)

2. How about we build an outline to keep it organized?
Maybe with hyperlinks in the TOC to the relevant section?

example:

Model Riveting
Presented by the -=]_.=-

I. Why Rivet?
II. Riveting Methods
a. Sliced rod method
1. dsteingass section
2. mxwllmdr's section
b. Water Filter bead method
1. Rawson's section
etc.
etc.

3. How about TOOLS and MATERIALS appendicies? full of pictures of the tools, maybe even links to webstores, etc.
Can we do hotlinks in the article like Dakka does with abbreviations? That would be cool if we could. Then the TOC would link to the section, and the tool names would link to the appendix.

4. I think we should purposely mention the -=]_,=- often, but we should NEVER come right out and say what we are...I think that will lead the reader to wonder, add a little mystery


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I have an assload of old WD magazines, if you know the WD# I may have it right here.

I agree with the added mystery of the League.....

I will add your TOC into mine and continue forward with it. I'll PM the proposed final product to Dave and Vik for approval....

All right, League. Keep the ideas coming. Let's set a timeline though so it doesn't spiral out of control and never get published....


What say April 15th to have all suggested topics in and the 30th to have all methodology and individually assigned write ups finished?

Too short notice? Too long?

Is there anyone in the league with the skill and/or patience to do rivets... on infantry?

at shrike:

I won't be much help though, since I'm inexperienced and have no fresh ideas that hasn't already been covered

at least we could use you as a guinea pig...to test out all methods...LOL...


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shrike wrote:Is there anyone in the league with the skill and/or patience to do rivets... on infantry?

either jake will jump to that or we have to invite ishkatar and or storag to the fold... both have shown numerous amounts of rivets on mini´s already...