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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 10:29:58
Subject: [1850] - Tau - Competive Tau need help improving
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Fresh-Faced New User
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HQ
Commander (162)
Blacksun Filter, Command and Control Node (15pts), Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite (20pts), Multi-Tracker, Neuroweb System Jammer (2pts), Puretide Engram Neurochip (15pts), XV8-02 Crisis 'Iridium' Battlesuit (25pts)
Ethereal (50pts)
Elites
Riptide Shas'vre (188pts)
Advanced Targeting System (3pts), Ion Accelerator (5pts), Riptide Shield Generator, Twin-linked Plasma Rifle
Riptide Shas'vre (188pts)
Advanced Targeting System (3pts), Ion Accelerator (5pts), Riptide Shield Generator, Twin-linked Plasma Rifle
Crisis Shas'ui (50pts)
Drone Controller (8pts), Flamer (5pts), Plasma Rifle (15pts)
Crisis Shas'ui (50pts)
Drone Controller (8pts), Flamer (5pts), Plasma Rifle (15pts)
Crisis Shas'ui (45pts)
Advanced Targeting System (3pts), Twin-linked Plasma Rifle (20pts)
4x MV7 Marker Drone (48pts)
4x Markerlight
Troops
Fire Warrior Shas'ui with Pulse Blaster (19pts)
Field Amplifier Relay, Photon Grenades
9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Blaster (81pts)
9x Field Amplifier Relay, 9x Photon Grenades
2x MV7 Marker Drone (24pts)
2x Markerlight
Fire Warrior Shas'ui with Pulse Blaster (19pts)
Field Amplifier Relay, Photon Grenades
9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Blaster (81pts)
9x Field Amplifier Relay, 9x Photon Grenades
2x MV7 Marker Drone (24pts)
2x Markerlight
Fire Warrior Shas'ui with Pulse Blaster (19pts)
Field Amplifier Relay, Photon Grenades
9x Fire Warrior with Pulse Blaster (81pts)
9x Field Amplifier Relay, 9x Photon Grenades
2x MV7 Marker Drone (24pts)
2x Markerlight
Fast attack
2x MV7 Marker Drone (24pts)
2x Markerlight
6x Pathfinder (66pts)
6x Photon Grenades, 6x Pulse Carbine with Markerlight
Pathfinder Shas'ui (21pts)
Photon Grenades, Pulse Carbine with Markerlight
2x MV7 Marker Drone (24pts)
2x Markerlight
6x Pathfinder (66pts)
6x Photon Grenades, 6x Pulse Carbine with Markerlight
Pathfinder Shas'ui (21pts)
Photon Grenades, Pulse Carbine with Markerlight
6x Pathfinder (66pts)
6x Photon Grenades, 6x Pulse Carbine with Markerlight
Heavy Support
Broadside (68pts)
Advanced Targeting System (3pts), Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
Broadside Battlesuit
Blacksun Filter, Multi-tracker
Broadside (68pts)
Advanced Targeting System (3pts), Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
Broadside Battlesuit
Blacksun Filter, Multi-tracker
Broadside (68pts)
Advanced Targeting System (3pts), Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
Broadside Battlesuit
Blacksun Filter, Multi-tracker
Broadside (68pts)
Advanced Targeting System (3pts), Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
Broadside Battlesuit
Blacksun Filter, Multi-tracker
Broadside (68pts)
Advanced Targeting System (3pts), Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
Broadside Battlesuit
Blacksun Filter, Multi-tracker
Broadside (68pts)
Advanced Targeting System (3pts), Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle, Twin-linked Smart Missile System
Broadside Battlesuit
Blacksun Filter, Multi-tracker
Feedback would be much appreciated. Sorry if it is quite lengthy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 12:39:57
Subject: [1850] - Tau - Competive Tau need help improving
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Stalwart Dark Angels Space Marine
London
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you're going to have to reformat that and post it in a readable way to get any feedback. Are there any constraints in hte tournament you are playing? formations would help this, a lot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 13:11:58
Subject: [1850] - Tau - Competive Tau need help improving
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Fresh-Faced New User
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The armies have to be bound and no apocalypse units
1X Commander (162)
- Command and control node
- Iridium Battlesuit
- Multi-spectrum sensor Suite
- Nero web system jammer
- Puretide engram neurochip
1X Etheral (50)
2X Riptides (376)
- Advanced Targeting System
- Twin-linked Plasma Rifle
- Ion Accelerator
2X Crisis (100)
- Drone Controller
- Flamer
- Plasma Rifle
1X Crisis (45)
- Advanced Targeting System
- Twin-linked Plasma Rifle
4X Maker drones (48) (With Crisis)
3X (375)
10XFire Warrior with Pulse Blaster
- Shas-ul
- 2 Marker Drones
2X (222)
6X Pathfinders
- Shas-ul
- 2 Marker Drones
6X Pathfinders (66)
3X Broadsiders (204)
- Advanced Targeting System
- Twin-linked Smart Missile System
- Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle
3X Broadsiders (204)
- Advanced Targeting System
- Twin-linked Smart Missile System
- Twin-linked Heavy Rail Rifle
I hope this is better.
I don't know too much about tau formations but your probably right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 15:17:40
Subject: [1850] - Tau - Competive Tau need help improving
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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I'd put it into a Hunter Contingent. - You would need to drop the Ethereal for this though.
Drop both your pathfinder squads that have marker drones (the two that equal 222) and reduce the other one to a basic 4 man squad
Drop the Shas-ul and marker drones from the fire warriors and drop the marker drones and drone controller from the crisis team.
Drop some of those broadsides.
Then add the drone Net with marker drones in as your Auxillery.
Merge your crisis teams together and increase the number of them with the left over points give them target locks and x2 missiles each and attach your commander here
I'd then run the Riptides as 2 seperate units and drop the targeting systems.
Also High Yield Missile Pods over Rail Rifles, they don't look as pretty but they're far more efficient.
I'd also consider splitting the fire warrior squads up to benefit from the detachment bonuses.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 21:38:02
Subject: Re:[1850] - Tau - Competive Tau need help improving
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Iike this?
Hunter
Hunter Carde
Command
Commander
-Command and Control Node
-Flamer
-Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite
-Neuroweb System Jammer
-Puretide Engram Neurochip
-XV8-02 Crisis 'Iridium' Battlesuit
Elites
2X Riptide
-Early Warning Override
-Ion Accelerator
- Velocity Tracker
- Twin-linked Fusion Blaster
-Velocity Tracker
3X Crisis
-Fusion Blaster
-Plasma Rifle
Fast attack
1X Pathfinder
3X Pathfinder with Rail Rifle
Heavy Support
2X Broadside
-Seeker Missiles
-Twin-linked High-Yield Missle
-Twin-linked Smart Missile System
2X Broadside
-Seeker Missiles
-Twin-linked High-Yield Missle
-Twin-linked Smart Missile System
2X Broadside
-Seeker Missiles
-Twin-linked High-Yield Missle
-Twin-linked Smart Missile System
Troops
10x Fire Warrior with Pulse Blaster
-DS8 Tactical Support Turret (Missle pod)
10x Fire Warrior with Pulse Blaster
-DS8 Tactical Support Turret (Missle pod)
10x Fire Warrior with Pulse Blaster
-DS8 Tactical Support Turret (Missle pod)
Auxiliary
Drone network
4X Marker Drones
Formation Detachment
Drone-Net VX1-0
4X Marker Drones
4X Marker Drones
4X Marker Drones
4X Marker Drones
Thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/11 21:55:15
Subject: [1850] - Tau - Competive Tau need help improving
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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Ditch the rail rifles on the Pathfinders, they're there for markerlights, not fire support. In fact, with all the BS3 marker drones, ditch the Pathfinders for Fusion Pirahnas. They also bring drones that will benefit from the drone net buff and the Fusion Blasters will help with anti vehicle.
Double up on crisis weapons, don't mix and match (though if you absolutely must, plasma / Fusion is the way to go). Find the points for more crisis as using a buffmander for only 3 suits isn't the best.
For your troops, you want either Pulse rifles and a turret or breachers in a devilfish. The carbines are a trap, breachers need fish to get into range without being annihilated and will never be stationary to use the turret.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 05:54:57
Subject: [1850] - Tau - Competive Tau need help improving
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Agree with no pathfinders. Marker Drones instead.
Flamers and plasma combo is weird
Why not Firebase support cadre and loose all that troop tax?
How about
Firebase Cadre?
Drone Net?
Farsight Enclaves?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 14:35:13
Subject: [1850] - Tau - Competive Tau need help improving
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Dakka Veteran
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What about optimized stealth cadre? Drone net and riptide wing are also top contenders. If you want competitive base around a CAD and a few formations.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/12 15:54:05
Subject: [1850] - Tau - Competive Tau need help improving
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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i mean for marker lights go tetrad.
the most optimised tau list is pure mc with the drone formation
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/17 04:28:47
Subject: Re:[1850] - Tau - Competive Tau need help improving
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I have 2 different types of list at the moment, one is more mc heavy while the other has more of a variety of units
list #1
CAD
HQ
Commander
-Command and Control Node
-Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite
-Neuroweb System Jammer
-Puretide Engram Neurochip
-XV8-02 Crisis 'Iridium' Battlesuit
Ethereal
Elites
3X Crisis
-2X Fusion Blasters
-Shas'vre
3X Crisis
-2X Fusion Blasters
Troops
10X Fire Warriors (strike team)
-All with pulse rifles
-Turret with missile pod
10X Fire Warriors (strike team)
-All with pulse rifles
-Turret with missile pod
Heavy support
3X Broadsides
-Seeker missile
-Twin-linked High-Yield missile pod
-Twin-linked Smart Missile
Formations
Drone-Net VX1-0
4X Marker Drones
4X Marker Drones
5X Marker Drones
5X Marker Drones
Riptide wing
3X Riptides
-Early Warning Override
-Ion Accelerator
-Twin-linked Smart Missile System
Fortification
Aegis Defense line (Strategy is to hide my fire warriors and riptides with the ethereal behind and fire back of course)
-Ammunition Dump (use this to make it so that the riptides don't kill themselves with get hot)
List #2
Formation
Drone-Net VX1-0
4X Marker Drones
4X Marker Drones
4X Marker Drones
4X Marker Drones
Heavy Retaliation
Stormsurge
-Pulse Driver Cannon
-Twin-linked Flamer? (Not sure what to put here)
Stormsurge
-Pulse Driver Cannon
-Twin-linked Flamer? (Not sure what to put here)
2X Ghostkeel
-Counter Defence System
-Cyclinc Ion Raker
-Twin-linked Fusion Blaster
Riptide wing
3X Riptides
-Early Warning Override
-Ion Accelerator
-Twin-linked Smart Missile System
What do you think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/17 20:01:00
Subject: Re:[1850] - Tau - Competive Tau need help improving
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Fixture of Dakka
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Your list is evolving nicely with the advice given. Perhaps a few more tweaks.
waterduck wrote:Commander
-Command and Control Node
-Multi-spectrum Sensor Suite
-Neuroweb System Jammer
-Puretide Engram Neurochip
-XV8-02 Crisis 'Iridium' Battlesuit
3X Crisis
-2X Fusion Blasters
-Shas'vre
3X Crisis
-2X Fusion Blasters
Give the MSS and C&CN to the 'Vre and his guns to the HQ. You'll still have Twin Linked, Ignores Cover fun for your AP2 guns, but you'll be upping one shooter from BS3 to BS5.
waterduck wrote:
3X Broadsides
-Seeker missile
-Twin-linked High-Yield missile pod
-Twin-linked Smart Missile
Bond them. It's worth it.
waterduck wrote:
Riptide wing
3X Riptides
-Early Warning Override
-Ion Accelerator
-Twin-linked Smart Missile System
Gonna be pricey, but soooo worth the resiliency: Stims. I'd say you have far too many Marker units, so I'd sacrifice the points there.
waterduck wrote:-Ammunition Dump (use this to make it so that the riptides don't kill themselves with get hot)
I think I just committed a non urinary, non poo, soiling of my shorts.  This is awesome! But, do you have a data sheet that gives the points cost?
waterduck wrote:Stormsurge
-Pulse Driver Cannon
-Twin-linked Flamer? (Not sure what to put here)
Needs the Invuln Shield.
waterduck wrote:Riptide wing
3X Riptides
-Early Warning Override
-Ion Accelerator
-Twin-linked Smart Missile System
What do you think?
Pending the question on the Ammo Dump, Stims are really good for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/04/17 23:24:52
Subject: Re:[1850] - Tau - Competive Tau need help improving
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I did what you said  the aegis with the ammunition cost 70 points, l might stick to list number 1 but l can always just get 2 stormsurges and ghostkeel later on to make the second list. I'm glad you like the aegis defense line strategy, l look forward to drinking my enemies tears.
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