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idk, 20 points tops though. Even though the 18" gun that will wound most MCs on 5's and 6's is strong (ignoring the Get's hot) it's still basically only going to ever be in sternguard or tactical squads and is STILL just as fragile as a regular marine (which I've been told sucks in a competative setting) Top that off with the inability to spam it (unlike certain other stupidly strong units in the game), I think it's not worth much beyond 15-20.

ssisal wrote:
using the da codex I get 14marine +15plasma/grav pistol +10combiweapon +0ccw = 39 points. expensive, as heck but very cool. where is he from

he's from the 2-day run of the 30th anniversary this weekend.