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Now first of all, don't get me wrong, I think Age of Sigmar is fun when properly organized, and I am not trying to hate on the game. I am writing this article partially as a plot theory and partially because I do think 40k is better off in its current state than it would be with a rules set with almost no restrictions. With that, let me begin.

After what happened to Fantasy, some people were worried that Games Workshop would eventually follow up with the same to 40k. Now, it wouldn't be exactly the same, because 40k was already very different from 8th Ed Fantasy, but they still could've removed the already flawed balance from the game.

The reason why I think this may end up happening is because the way the fluff has been written is suggesting that a scenario similar to the awesome AOS heralding End Times is approaching rapidly. Many of the Loyalist Primarchs are bieved to still be alive and ready to return in humanity's "hour of need" or the "final battle against Chaos. Lion El'Jonson and Roboute Guilliman are known to be alive by their chapter HQs, and Jaghatai Khan, Vulkan, Leman Russ and Corvus Corax are still alive, and ready to come back when Chaos launches the final Assault against the Imperium. (Sorry Ferrus, Rogal & Sanguinius, you didn't quite make the cut) Similarly, the Chaos Primarchs are largely still alive. The four who embodied individual Chaos gods, Fulgrim, Angron, Mortarion & Magnus, are all still alive in the form of Greater Daemon Princes who are too busy governing their little Chaos planets to get up and murder some humans. Other Primarchs on the traitor side are also alive as Daemon Princes, I'm pretty sure Horus and Kurze are dead.

This might raise the question, "Doesn't Games Workshop make all the forces even when it comes to Primarch smackdowns?" Seeing how exactly half of the Legions turned traitor and roughly half of all other Imperial Forces joined Horus. Well, this might not be true anyway, but if they do want it to be even, the solution is Omegon. His actions throughout the Horus Heresy suggest that he is possibly working overall to the benefit of the Imperium. If Games Workshop does end up having OCD about the returning Primarchs, the solution could be to have Omegon and some Alpha Legion join the Loyalists.

Don't worry yet though, while it is shaping up as an End Times situation, it is not certain that all the space marines saying their Primarch will return are right. It could just be a source of inspiration, and one of the best reasons I can think of are the Xenos races. Unless they did some weird thing like having certain races join the Imperium (Likely Tau and Eldar, maybe Necrons) against Chaos and having the rest join Chaos (weird with Orks and Dark Eldar, stretching it with Tyranids) then they would have to either make those forces much less important than they used to be, or remove them from the conflict entirely. Therefore it would take some work for GW to launch this, and without further development, it will take some new things to make this possible. Thanks you for reading this, I hope to receive feedback, positive or otherwise.

If the Milky Way is blown up, then I could see this happening.

But 40k's been way more successful profit wise than Fantasy was before it got Sigmarised. So I don't see them rewriting the rules.

That said, they've been losing money ever since 6th edition hit, so there might be a reworking of the rules, but nothing as drastic as Fantasy > AoS was.

40k is too successful and have far too much room to create narratives within the setting. There is very few good reasons to reset the setting and a million terrible ones to do so. They could literally throw a dart the 40k galaxy map, pull some names in a random name generator, and create a campaign involving basically any and all factions with Tau and Nids being the only "locationally restrictive" factions.

If they AoSed it, I'd finally quit. I'd be fine with it.

Rumoured that Guilliman killed either Alpharius or Omegon, so bringing one of them back would solve a wonderful mystery, that IMO, should stay unsolved.

They can't really bring the end about considering they're building up for everyone winning.

40k currently has the weirdest point system I have ever seen.

Some models / upgrades do cost points while other models / upgrades don't cost points and the things that do cost points are not priced in the same way.

I would rather have a system with points or a system without points but I really don't like this strange mix. This mix gives you the illusion that you know what to expect while in reality you don't.

Do I like the idea of AoS ing NO not at all. But i sure wish for the next edtion to make an end to this nonsense soon even if it has to be a community based point system

Yes (kinda).

They would have to approach it differently.
"Killing off" various races would be very bad so I think they would not give the "Squat" treatment.
We are overdue for a rules rewrite but I think personnel wise, they are not equipped to make the change.
They could contract out which raises some interesting possibilities.

I am not playing much for the very reason that I do not like the 6th and 7th rules so who knows what could come up?

Oh it's gonna happen alright it doesn't matter that AoS tanked they've had it in the works long before AoS was released they 18-24 months lead time remember.

What's more GW can't admit the humped the bunk with fantasy they'll double down rather than admit everything they've been doing is wrong.

Another company would by this point have admitted their mistakes, apologised and promised to improve things trying to rebuild burnt bridges.

GW don't know who their customers are and what they want they live in their own fantasy world where customers are just drones that mindlessly buy anything GW makes.

40k needs fixing but the problem is GW don't understand or care what the problems are so they'll remove points and make every army build around imbalanced formations.

They could AoS the rules, which would be a good thing in general.

If they get rid of points or if they AoS the whole galaxy, GW will be bankrupt within a couple of years.

No.






Ten characters.

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
Rumoured that Guilliman killed either Alpharius or Omegon, so bringing one of them back would solve a wonderful mystery, that IMO, should stay unsolved.

the black legion suppliment outright says the Alpha Legion's primarch is gone.

I saw this on BoLs and (if true) my answer has to be: Yes.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/04/40k-battle-vedros-release-list-sighted.html

BrianDavion wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
Rumoured that Guilliman killed either Alpharius or Omegon, so bringing one of them back would solve a wonderful mystery, that IMO, should stay unsolved.

the black legion suppliment outright says the Alpha Legion's primarch is gone.

Quote?

We wrote:
I saw this on BoLs and (if true) my answer has to be: Yes.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/04/40k-battle-vedros-release-list-sighted.html

Eh, I mean if it can get more people into the game than I'm all for starter sets aimed towards younger ages. These sets are generally pretty cheap too.

As for the rules I doubt it. They seem pretty set on doing a supplement every now and again. They know the backlash they got from releasing 5th, 6th and 7th so close together so I don't think they'll do another core rulebook for a while.

pm713 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
Rumoured that Guilliman killed either Alpharius or Omegon, so bringing one of them back would solve a wonderful mystery, that IMO, should stay unsolved.

the black legion suppliment outright says the Alpha Legion's primarch is gone.

Quote?

he cant, because it doesn't, it just says they don't know where he is, if he died, or if he is still kicking around, so standard alpha legion shenanigans.

 Formosa wrote:

pm713 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
Rumoured that Guilliman killed either Alpharius or Omegon, so bringing one of them back would solve a wonderful mystery, that IMO, should stay unsolved.

the black legion suppliment outright says the Alpha Legion's primarch is gone.

Quote?

he cant, because it doesn't, it just says they don't know where he is, if he died, or if he is still kicking around, so standard alpha legion shenanigans.

So like almost every single Loyal Primarch then.

pm713 wrote:

 Formosa wrote:

pm713 wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:

 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
Rumoured that Guilliman killed either Alpharius or Omegon, so bringing one of them back would solve a wonderful mystery, that IMO, should stay unsolved.

the black legion suppliment outright says the Alpha Legion's primarch is gone.

Quote?

he cant, because it doesn't, it just says they don't know where he is, if he died, or if he is still kicking around, so standard alpha legion shenanigans.

So like almost every single Loyal Primarch then.

yep

No, it isn't.

How often has this thread been made at this point?

My count's at five.

Why do people keep bringing this up?

pm713 wrote:
My count's at five.

Why do people keep bringing this up?

possibly because sites like BolS (ocks) and spikey bits, nafka etc. all keep dropping click bait bull crap and people are too gullible to not realise its total BS.

We wrote:
I saw this on BoLs and (if true) my answer has to be: Yes.

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2016/04/40k-battle-vedros-release-list-sighted.html

Why
Why
Why
Whyyyyyyyy do people keep using B(ol)S articles without sources as sources?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
No, it isn't.

How often has this thread been made at this point?

I think because time can change everything.
I guess we will not see an AoSification of 40k soon.

Ask yourself seriously can an 8 year old learn something as convoluted as 7th?

I don't think so honestly but if stupidly they are aiming for even younger kids they'll need simpler rules.

40k needs a total reboot and a split into at least two or three different games. It needs this very badly.

As for what *will* happen? I have no idea, but given GW's track record of late, they'll probably go out of their way to find the least functional solution since that seems to be their thing.

GW are moving towards telling a story with a narrative rather than having a static setting which you learn about.

If this is AoSification then it is already happening. Canonically the Dark Angels are bombarding Fenris right now.

They could annihilate the setting completely but it seems unnecessary. The current universe might make it difficult for the Emperor to duel Khorne beneath the ever floating Islands of the Shimmertarn - but to be honest you could get there if you really wanted. 40k is such that you can do more or less anything you like.

On the mechanical side I feel given the backlash on AoS (simplified rules, no points etc) GW would have to be insane to mess with their gold eggs. It might all be set in motion but I doubt it. Its not after all difficult to wait and see what happens with AoS before they embark on what would be a fairly courageous course of action.

I am a bit concerned that I do not care anymore.
Simplification would be welcomed.
I do like some sandbox elements so dropping races would be a miserable thing to do.

It would make no sense for GW to AoS 40K. I think they'll do it.

 Vaktathi wrote:
40k needs a total reboot and a split into at least two or three different games. It needs this very badly.

As for what *will* happen? I have no idea, but given GW's track record of late, they'll probably go out of their way to find the least functional solution since that seems to be their thing.

I agree, id happily see a AOS version of 40k if it was for 500pts or less, at 501-1500pts we could have standard 40k, with only a few rules, and at 1501-3000pts we could have advanced 40k, special rules, move stats, AS modifiers etc,


Id buy all 3, but ONLY if it had points.

Tyel wrote:
GW are moving towards telling a story with a narrative rather than having a static setting which you learn about.

If this is AoSification then it is already happening. Canonically the Dark Angels are bombarding Fenris right now.

They could annihilate the setting completely but it seems unnecessary. The current universe might make it difficult for the Emperor to duel Khorne beneath the ever floating Islands of the Shimmertarn - but to be honest you could get there if you really wanted. 40k is such that you can do more or less anything you like.

On the mechanical side I feel given the backlash on AoS (simplified rules, no points etc) GW would have to be insane to mess with their gold eggs. It might all be set in motion but I doubt it. Its not after all difficult to wait and see what happens with AoS before they embark on what would be a fairly courageous course of action.

If they were good business men they would of waited but they've proven time and again they are idiots that got lucky got big but never truly understood how or why.

Now they are trapped by the shareholders they can't afford to wait they need to endlessly refresh the editions and army books just to keep profits up so they can pay dividends, they desperately need the bump a new edition gives at the end of the financial year.

What's more multiple reliable people say this is coming, they won't kill the universe but points are going the way of the dinosaurs and with them any pretence of balance, then it's all over.