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From Faeit:

via Something Awful in the their TG section:
"May as well drop some rumours here.

40k will get a new edition in September. It is a minor clean up of the
current rules, they won't even be changing the cover art, and they will put
an FAQ that covers the changes online. It's basically an amended reprint.

There will be two new campaign books this year, covering Blood Angels, Grey
Knights, Tyranids and Orks, and will include formations for all of them.
This is because they are the pre-formation codexes.

The studio knows there are problems with the Ork book, but there is no
clear direction as to where they want to go with it in balancing it with
the current codices beyond minor rewrites and adding formations. Ork Clan
formations are very likely.

GW are married to formations now, and will give the studio a brief of
things like do some formations for an army and how much the formation
should cost to buy the models for, ie a £200 formation.

On fantasy there will be a tournament format for AoS with points. The sales
plummeted for AoS but the current fantasy range sales look healthier than
before the change (though how much this is people buying stuff to finish
their collections I wasn't told). Feedback on the rules was incredibly
poisonous, and GW want to move past it and heal.

Bretonnians were going to be in the next WFB starter before it was scrapped
in favour of AoS, meaning there are some lovely plastics that made it to
prototyping that will likely never be seen now, including a hero on
hippogriff better than the Elf Prince from Island of Blood.

Lord of the Rings will include both the Strategy Battle Game and a new
version of War of the Ring where it is possible to play a ranked up fantasy
game, because Forgeworld know there is a gap in the market.

Forgeworld will have finished their new production facility at some point
next month, though they will not be available to order to store until the
production quality issues are solved and they can produce in the volume and
quality required.

GW will be launching an anonymous feedback system for staff next month, for
a number of reasons. Such as 50% of staff not passing 3 month probation and
25% of staff left not finishing the year, which is an eye watering turnover
even for retail. These will be gone through for action points, and followed
up at monthly meetings.

Kirby is now gone, and everyone is rejoicing because the new CEO plays the
game, won't force people out for telling it to him like it is (as Kirby did
to Alessio Calvatore after his presentation to the board where he told them
they were pricing out kids, which meant Jervis came back from holiday to
find out Alessio had resigned rather than be fired) and actively wants to
listen to people.

Forgeworlds star has been rising because of Horus Heresy and Betrayal at
Calth, and there are behind the scenes discussions about FW being delivered
to store and the Specialist Games range being available through the store.

The new store planograms are here to stay, though some stores don't have
enough shelving units.

Kirby in his new adviser to the board hasn't attended a single meeting now
the reins of power have passed to Kev Rountree, because they always seem to
be held when he is unavailable. Kirby also once loudly and publicly
announced no one played games and rules didn;t matter in a Throne of Skulls
tournament."


what do you think? something true?

So, how many pages will we get of complaints and wishlisting? I'll wait for more credible info before biting.

zamerion wrote:
On fantasy there will be a tournament format for AoS with points.

GW already debunked this one a month or so ago. The only 'points' these tournaments will have are in regards to player standings.

It's Faeit, yet it's plausible and correlates directly with observable behaviour and publicly available information.

Does not compute.

Interesting. But Faeit is generally full of gak as is BoLS...

I am highly dubious of this. From what I understand the end times and age of sigmar was in planning for years, so why start to make a new starter set. The stuff about scheduling meetings to avoid Kirby also sounds like nonsense. Didn't they already talk about plans for the Lotr game which did not include war of the ring? They haven't even don't the second part of war zone Fenris yet. How will there be time for two more this year?

On fantasy there will be a tournament format for AoS with points. The sales
plummeted for AoS but the current fantasy range sales look healthier than
before the change...

This part certainly raises an eyebrow.

I find it odd that various specific complaints about Tom Kirby are in these 'rumours'.

about FW being delivered
to store and the Specialist Games range being available through the store.

Thank god, their shipping costs are bollox.

Something Awful in the their TG section

...where it is possible to play a ranked up fantasy
game, because Forgeworld know there is a gap in the market

Oh... really?

Well, the rumours don't sound unrealistic, but... Faeit...

Thanks, Zamerion, for posting it.

There are several things in this rumor which sound like an angry kid making stuff up and because of that I don't buy it.

Until someone reliable chimes in and can help us sorting which parts of this (if any) are legit information, I do not see why we should trust these rumors.

Calling 1000% bull.

Salty. Does not fit with my perception of GW's past or present activities.

Faeit...

zamerion wrote:

Kirby is now gone, and everyone is rejoicing because the new CEO plays the
game, won't force people out for telling it to him like it is (as Kirby did
to Alessio Calvatore after his presentation to the board where he told them
they were pricing out kids, which meant Jervis came back from holiday to
find out Alessio had resigned rather than be fired) and actively wants to
listen to people.

Interesting, hadn't heard that before, I wonder if its true?

You can imagine it as part of that popular meme, with the exec saying "I wonder what we can do to increase sales?", the first couple of answers saying "release a new edition" or "get rid of force org restrictions" and the voice at the back saying "make things affordable for kids", before he goes bouncing out of the window.

We should invoke SadPanda!!!

zamerion wrote:
From Faeit:

via Something Awful in the their TG section:
...
Forgeworld will have finished their new production facility at some point
next month, though they will not be available to order to store until the
production quality issues are solved and they can produce in the volume and
quality required.

I'm curious about this one. Anyone heard anything about a new Forgeworld facility? If they were preparing for the ability to ramp up production, then why did they suddenly drop a lot of product from their lines? Or was that a case of needing to clear space for this facility or what?

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

zamerion wrote:
From Faeit:

via Something Awful in the their TG section:
...
Forgeworld will have finished their new production facility at some point
next month, though they will not be available to order to store until the
production quality issues are solved and they can produce in the volume and
quality required.

I'm curious about this one. Anyone heard anything about a new Forgeworld facility? If they were preparing for the ability to ramp up production, then why did they suddenly drop a lot of product from their lines? Or was that a case of needing to clear space for this facility or what?

Well more space, more of the same molds, more focus on casting the same gak over and over?

it kinda makes sense in that they are focusing on a few lines instead of a LOT of different items.

Turns out that voice was Rountree! And now he's running the show. If he ever happens to come to CT, I'd like to buy the guy a beer for bringing about changes that brought me back to a company I used to love. I'm starting to really like them again, and it's mostly through things that have happened during his leadership.

 Desubot wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

zamerion wrote:
From Faeit:

via Something Awful in the their TG section:
...
Forgeworld will have finished their new production facility at some point
next month, though they will not be available to order to store until the
production quality issues are solved and they can produce in the volume and
quality required.

I'm curious about this one. Anyone heard anything about a new Forgeworld facility? If they were preparing for the ability to ramp up production, then why did they suddenly drop a lot of product from their lines? Or was that a case of needing to clear space for this facility or what?

Well more space, more of the same molds, more focus on casting the same gak over and over?

it kinda makes sense in that they are focusing on a few lines instead of a LOT of different items.

A relocation or reorganization often acts as a catalyst for these sort of things.

When faced with packing up dozens, if not hundreds of different moulds/masters, it might make sense to look and see that you didn't sell X product since you sold 1 back last August and decide it isn't worth the effort of relocation and just stick it in a box, or, given GW's history with this stuff, the bin.

Please be true!

 Desubot wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

zamerion wrote:
From Faeit:

via Something Awful in the their TG section:
...
Forgeworld will have finished their new production facility at some point
next month, though they will not be available to order to store until the
production quality issues are solved and they can produce in the volume and
quality required.

I'm curious about this one. Anyone heard anything about a new Forgeworld facility? If they were preparing for the ability to ramp up production, then why did they suddenly drop a lot of product from their lines? Or was that a case of needing to clear space for this facility or what?

Well more space, more of the same molds, more focus on casting the same gak over and over?

it kinda makes sense in that they are focusing on a few lines instead of a LOT of different items.

Remember that Forge World will be responsible for all of the Specialist Games line.

I know that generous amounts of salt should be applied, but some of this definitely sounds quite legit:
1. Screw Orks - they don't need good rules because, "punching bag"!

2. 0 mention of Chaos, because, "screw Chaos!"



iirc, one of the main rumor gurus did mention that Warzone Fenris Part II would contain updates & a new Decurion style detachment for Grey Knights.

Looks like actual codex books are going the way of the dodo, unless you're either a Smurf, Tau or Eldar though...

zamerion wrote:
Bretonnians were going to be in the next WFB starter before it was scrapped in favour of AoS, meaning there are some lovely plastics that made it to prototyping that will likely never be seen now, including a hero on hippogriff better than the Elf Prince from Island of Blood.

Thanks for kicking me while I'm down. Here, let me smile broadly so you can get all of my teeth, why don't you?

mumblemumblesomethingaboutbadluckbrianmumbemumble.

So 40k is staying in the mire of crap that it is currently in lol. 7th has destroyed 40k. It is a mess. Minor tweaks wont fix it. Hopefully gw will see sense and fix it before it dies out

It feels like a combination wishlist and taking current activities and extrapolating.

Do I think Kirby has much interaction anymore in the day to day. Nope. It FEELS like an almost different company that produces the same models. Or like how the company used to be run in some cases.

The rest is meh with liberally applied salt but I don't hate any of it. But that's kinda the point of made up stuff

zamerion wrote:

There will be two new campaign books this year, covering Blood Angels, Grey
Knights, Tyranids and Orks, and will include formations for all of them.
This is because they are the pre-formation codexes.

The studio knows there are problems with the Ork book, but there is no
clear direction as to where they want to go with it in balancing it with
the current codices beyond minor rewrites and adding formations. Ork Clan
formations are very likely.

If I'm not mistaken, Orks gained their 'decurion' formation with the updated Ghazghkull supplement? And Dark Eldar still lack formations as well.

 Motograter wrote:
So 40k is staying in the mire of crap that it is currently in lol. 7th has destroyed 40k. It is a mess. Minor tweaks wont fix it. Hopefully gw will see sense and fix it before it dies out

This.

If true, try again with 9th ed. GW.

Yeah, Idk how they're forgetting DE here....and Chaos marines...they're both the same age/older than the 4 listed.

but they're not space marines and we're not allowed to have a single release that isn't at least 50% loyalist power armor, so that makes a lot of sense.

I guess DE and CSM can just wait until 8th ed when GW has to make a new codex for all the SM factions again. Or maybe we can just release 2 new loyalist Sm subfactions to pair with those. Black Templars vs CSM and Deathwatch vs DE?

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

zamerion wrote:
From Faeit:

via Something Awful in the their TG section:
...
Forgeworld will have finished their new production facility at some point
next month, though they will not be available to order to store until the
production quality issues are solved and they can produce in the volume and
quality required.

I'm curious about this one. Anyone heard anything about a new Forgeworld facility? If they were preparing for the ability to ramp up production, then why did they suddenly drop a lot of product from their lines? Or was that a case of needing to clear space for this facility or what?

As this would likely be a good thing for their stock price, not hearing about it until now would be odd.