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2016/04/24 15:10:42
Subject: Woman in leading Flint water crisis lawsuit slain in twin killing
FLINT, MI – A woman at the center of a bellwether Flint water crisis lawsuit was one of two women who were shot to death inside a townhouse earlier this week.
Sasha Avonna Bell was one of the first of a growing number of people to file a lawsuit in connection to the Flint water crisis after she claimed that her child had been lead poisoned.
Bell was found dead April 19 in the 2600 block of Ridgecrest Drive at the Ridgecrest Village Townhouses. Sacorya Renee Reed was also found shot to death in the home.
An unharmed 1-year-old child was also found inside of the Ridgecrest home when Bell's body was discovered and was taken into custody by child protective services. Police declined to confirm if it was Bell's child discovered in the home.
"Sasha was a lovely young woman who cared deeply for her family, and especially for her young child," said her attorney Corey M. Stern. "Her tragic and senseless death has created a void in the lives of so many people that loved her. Hopefully, her child will be lifted up by the love and support from everyone who cared deeply for Sasha."
Bell's case was one of 64 lawsuits filed on behalf of 144 children by Stern's firm, New York-based Levy Konigsberg, and Flint-based Robinson Carter & Crawford.
Days after a mother and her 9-year-old son were shot in Flint, an infant was recovered from a home where police discovered the bodies of two young women who were slain.
The lawsuit named six companies that had various responsibilities with respect to the treatment, monitoring, and safety of the Flint water prior to and during the Flint water crisis, according to her attorneys. The case also named three individual government, or former government, employees who played significant roles in the alleged misconduct that led to the alleged poisoning of thousands of children in Flint, her attorneys claim.
The Bell case, however, played an important role in determining the future of the more than five dozen other lawsuits that were filed.
Initially, Bell's case and the others were filed in Genesee Circuit Court. However, they were transferred to U.S. District Court on a motion from one of the defendants, engineering company Lockwood, Andrews & Newnam.
However, Ann Arbor U.S. District Judge John Corbett O'Meara ruled April 13 that Bell's case should return to the state court claiming it lacked jurisdiction to hear the case.
Stern said the case will continue and a representative will be appointed for Bell's child.
The ruling also forced the other 63 cases to be returned to state court.
Flint police say they have a person in custody in connection to the slayings of Bell and Reed. No charges have yet been filed.
Flint Water Plant employee found dead at Otter Lake home
Spoiler:
FLINT (WJRT) - (04/21/16) - Thursday, Flint Mayor Karen Weaver announced the death of a forman at the Flint Water Plant.
A friend discovered 43-year-old Matthew McFarland's body when he went to visit him at his Otter Lake home last Saturday.
The Lapeer County Sheriff tells ABC12 there was no apparent signs of foul play.
Investigators are still waiting for toxicology reports before releasing a cause of death.
Lapeer County deputies also contacted state and federal officials because McFarland had been questioned by investigators looking into Flint's Water Emergency.
Both were apparently plaintiffs in the lawsuit.
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2016/04/24 15:14:08
Subject: Woman in leading Flint water crisis lawsuit slain in twin killing
JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
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2016/04/24 15:24:51
Subject: Woman in leading Flint water crisis lawsuit slain in twin killing
Flint Water Plant employee found dead at Otter Lake home
Spoiler:
FLINT (WJRT) - (04/21/16) - Thursday, Flint Mayor Karen Weaver announced the death of a forman at the Flint Water Plant.
A friend discovered 43-year-old Matthew McFarland's body when he went to visit him at his Otter Lake home last Saturday.
The Lapeer County Sheriff tells ABC12 there was no apparent signs of foul play.
Investigators are still waiting for toxicology reports before releasing a cause of death.
Lapeer County deputies also contacted state and federal officials because McFarland had been questioned by investigators looking into Flint's Water Emergency.
Both were apparently plaintiffs in the lawsuit.
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2016/04/24 18:07:10
Subject: Woman in leading Flint water crisis lawsuit slain in twin killing
If it weren't Flint, a perennial violent crime leader, I might agree.
As it stands there are plenty of explanations that aren't malicious...aside from the actual murders.
Exactly right. Flint is impressively dangerous and could honestly be either a hit or just Flint being Flint
True.
However, Flint, like Detroit, is run by hopelessly corrupt political machines that are largely responsible for the degradation of both cities since the late 1960's.
So, contract killings would not surprise me in the least. Especially if the lawsuit in question would blow the lid off even bigger scams.
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2016/04/25 00:48:15
Subject: Woman in leading Flint water crisis lawsuit slain in twin killing
Ouze wrote: At what point did we start believing everything was part of some gigantic conspiracy - JFK? Earlier?
Always and forever.
Wake up, sheeple!
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2016/04/27 05:38:23
Subject: Re:Woman in leading Flint water crisis lawsuit slain in twin killing
d-usa wrote: "When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
2016/04/27 06:15:22
Subject: Re:Woman in leading Flint water crisis lawsuit slain in twin killing
1. While true,it doesn't erase the fact that the deaths of two people so close to one another, who are involved in the same mess, is suspicious. It may be nothing. It may be a coincidence. But it can still be attributed to malice until firm facts come in to prove otherwise, based on the timing.
2. And when people start playing the Alex Jones card, that's when a discussion on a topic ends for me. Because I have my suspicions on something that COULD be (but not necessarily) malicious, doesn't mean I automatically believe that the "International Jewish Bankers", the Free Masons, and "Skull and Bones" are behind something. And I don't appreciate you implying that I'm some paranoid conspiracy nut because of my suspicions over something that has happened to others in the past, and could be what happened in this case.
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2016/04/27 06:29:20
Subject: Re:Woman in leading Flint water crisis lawsuit slain in twin killing
oldravenman3025 wrote: 1. While true,it doesn't erase the fact that the deaths of two people so close to one another, who are involved in the same mess, is suspicious. It may be nothing. It may be a coincidence. But it can still be attributed to malice until firm facts come in to prove otherwise, based on the timing.
Right, you're just asking questions. Since you appear to be such a lover of facts, take this famous quotation into mind:
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
2. And when people start playing the Alex Jones card, that's when a discussion on a topic ends for me. Because I have my suspicions on something that COULD be (but not necessarily) malicious, doesn't mean I automatically believe that the "International Jewish Bankers", the Free Masons, and "Skull and Bones" are behind something. And I don't appreciate you implying that I'm some paranoid conspiracy nut because of my suspicions over something that has happened to others in the past, and could be what happened in this case.
Slow down, boss.
I'm not implying you're a paranoid conspiracy nut, I'm telling you that thousands of Americans die every day.
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2016/04/27 07:56:27
Subject: Re:Woman in leading Flint water crisis lawsuit slain in twin killing
oldravenman3025 wrote: 1. While true,it doesn't erase the fact that the deaths of two people so close to one another, who are involved in the same mess, is suspicious. It may be nothing. It may be a coincidence. But it can still be attributed to malice until firm facts come in to prove otherwise, based on the timing.
Right, you're just asking questions. Since you appear to be such a lover of facts, take this famous quotation into mind:
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
2. And when people start playing the Alex Jones card, that's when a discussion on a topic ends for me. Because I have my suspicions on something that COULD be (but not necessarily) malicious, doesn't mean I automatically believe that the "International Jewish Bankers", the Free Masons, and "Skull and Bones" are behind something. And I don't appreciate you implying that I'm some paranoid conspiracy nut because of my suspicions over something that has happened to others in the past, and could be what happened in this case.
Slow down, boss.
I'm not implying you're a paranoid conspiracy nut, I'm telling you that thousands of Americans die every day.
Fair enough. No harm, no foul. I'm quick to jump the gun because I'm having a bad week. Apologies.
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2016/04/27 08:25:11
Subject: Re:Woman in leading Flint water crisis lawsuit slain in twin killing
Most conspiracies will find events that appear to coincidental, or inconsistencies in the record that can't be explained. In this case the deaths of two people who were listed in a class action, one of whom was clearly murdered, is certainly enough of a coincidence to make people pay attention.
But most conspiracy theories are nothing more than speculation and imagination, because they never produce a conspiracy that makes any damn sense, and this is definitely one of those cases. I mean, what are we saying here, that dark forces overtly murdered one plaintiff, and sneakily poisoned another... why? If you're going for intimidation you'd murder both parties in ways that were obviously murders, because that's how intimidation works. And do people honestly believe that if was clearly murder, that they'd manage to have the other 140 odd plaintiffs disappear off the claim? Because that just isn't how people operate.
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2016/04/27 13:18:01
Subject: Re:Woman in leading Flint water crisis lawsuit slain in twin killing
Yeah, you give me a case where I see a mafia hit, and there are 2 witnesses, one gets murdered - I might be intimidated.
On the other hand, you have hundreds of parents who have children that have been poisoned. One guy dies of what seem to be natural causes, and another one gets shot to death in a perennial top-5 murder cities in the US, I'm going to either assume it's a coincidence, or play the odds.
Atop that, people don't generally commit felony murder, conspiracy to commit murder, and so on to evade charges that will probably, best case, result in 4 or 5 years of prison.
But sure, it's all very suspicious, why not.
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