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**not a pricing thread**
having said that. . .
the prices for the warden's upgrade sprue are simply amazing, and a continued shame that GW got out of the bits market. While the price is high, (and I've made it clear that I'm down on recasts), what have others done for stand ins? Personally, I'm considering using my TE Riptide Heavy Burst Cannons, but what are other people doing about it?

Since I'm doing a renegade knight, I'm using the hades autocannon from the forgefiend.

Too bad you can't just buy the spru from GW.

EBay has yielded the most consistency in finding knight bits. I too feel your pain. Why GW why no upgrade sprues?

Dreamforge Games has a 15mm scale Leviathan model. One of the weapons (available separately) is a giant gatling gun style weapon.

I've actually converted a Knight using the Lord of Skulls Torso and parts from the Leviathan. Honestly, the ability to swap out weapons options (as a design feature of the Leviathan) is awesome. Something that should have been engineered into the Knight.

 cuda1179 wrote:
Dreamforge Games has a 15mm scale Leviathan model. One of the weapons (available separately) is a giant gatling gun style weapon.

I've actually converted a Knight using the Lord of Skulls Torso and parts from the Leviathan. Honestly, the ability to swap out weapons options (as a design feature of the Leviathan) is awesome. Something that should have been engineered into the Knight.

Engineering something like swappable parts into a Knight would have been easy. It would go against GW's business plan though. They want you to buy as many Knights as possible, even when it's only for one or two bits. This should not be a surprise to you. They have been doing it for years.

+1 for the Dreamforge Levithan Vulkan Cannon. Curiously enough, the right handed Vulkan Cannon seems to be sold out... LOL

For the imperial-conscious minded converter, maybe the punisher gattling cannon from the Leman Russ?

Does anyone have a picture of the Dreamforge Levithan Vulkan Cannon on a knight for scale?

Why not get the DF Leviathan and count it as a knight?

It's a great kit (says the guy who still has his in a box...) and unlike some kits the weapons are interchangable.

I like the Knight a lot, a lot, a lot. But the Leviathan is a better kit.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Why not get the DF Leviathan and count it as a knight?

because it doesn't have the same aesthetics at all and is really expensive compared to the knight starter kit.

I have the 28mm Leviathan mortis kit assembled and painted, It is a fantastic kit and the Mortis has a real chaos vibe to it. I have a right handed vulkan cannon on order to field the dual vulkan cannon knight in my chaos army.

 oldzoggy wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Why not get the DF Leviathan and count it as a knight?

because it doesn't have the same aesthetics at all and is really expensive compared to the knight starter kit.

The aesthetics thing I can understand......but the cost????? You can get the 15mm Leviathan on ebay for $40, I've seen it for as low as $32 when it is on special clearance on some distributor's websites.