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Nah, he uses the excelsior shields (which I think look better for these conversions)


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On second look maybe those are Duncans!

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Whoops, are they? I googled Chris Peach's stuff and these appeared along with them.Though I have watched Duncan put together one on Warhammer TV but put it down as just coincidence.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
If fyreslayer box is true and GH II repoints them effectively, I will be selling my SC and lavaing every minute of it!


I see what you did there.

Hope Fyreslayers get alot of love by year's end. Poor guys need it.
   
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On the topic of start collecting.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oRc9VD-HOtaRnr58EKKzm7cSthbvirQ3MXie3YQ68hc/edit#gid=0

I made a spreadsheet which has all of the start collecting boxes and their rough appropriate points costs and individual costs.

The Fyreslayers is amazing value, almost the most value box out of 40k AND fantasy.

The problem with some of these comparisons though is its hard to say if the individual units are overpriced or if the box is just too good to be true.

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Jacob29 wrote:


The problem with some of these comparisons though is its hard to say if the individual units are overpriced or if the box is just too good to be true.


It tends to be the former. GW is getting better on pricing, but every now and then, they still seem to be throwing darts at a wall. I.E. the Acolyte/Metamorph kit.

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1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
 
   
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Local GW store has posted a picture about upcoming getting started boxes.

https://m.facebook.com/GWNuneaton/photos/a.109853292424539.15888.108119429264592/1404194022990453/?type=3&source=54
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Florence, KY

Yep. Mentioned two pages back...

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Pulsating Possessed Space Marine of Slaanesh





Jacob29 wrote:
On the topic of start collecting.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oRc9VD-HOtaRnr58EKKzm7cSthbvirQ3MXie3YQ68hc/edit#gid=0

I made a spreadsheet which has all of the start collecting boxes and their rough appropriate points costs and individual costs.

The Fyreslayers is amazing value, almost the most value box out of 40k AND fantasy.

The problem with some of these comparisons though is its hard to say if the individual units are overpriced or if the box is just too good to be true.
That Slaanesh start collecting box really the 2nd worst in every category ?

Edit: Seekers are being repackaged soon is it possible they are going up to 10 a box ? All other cavalry I can think of which has been re-boxed recently chaos knights, blood crusher, skull crushers, doubled in model size per box.

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Central Cimmeria

Jacob29 wrote:
On the topic of start collecting.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oRc9VD-HOtaRnr58EKKzm7cSthbvirQ3MXie3YQ68hc/edit#gid=0

I made a spreadsheet which has all of the start collecting boxes and their rough appropriate points costs and individual costs.

The Fyreslayers is amazing value, almost the most value box out of 40k AND fantasy.

The problem with some of these comparisons though is its hard to say if the individual units are overpriced or if the box is just too good to be true.


That is super helpful man! Thank you!

Would you mind adding in the skirmish force boxes as well?
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Xalapa, Veracruz, Mexico

Jacob29 wrote:
On the topic of start collecting.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oRc9VD-HOtaRnr58EKKzm7cSthbvirQ3MXie3YQ68hc/edit#gid=0

I made a spreadsheet which has all of the start collecting boxes and their rough appropriate points costs and individual costs.

The Fyreslayers is amazing value, almost the most value box out of 40k AND fantasy.

The problem with some of these comparisons though is its hard to say if the individual units are overpriced or if the box is just too good to be true.


Thanks for sharing! however, I'd like to correct you on some points:

  • Currently Termie Captains are available from the Deatwatch range, which is getting purged right now, but still...

  • What do you mean with "cut down"? All of them have the minimum models needed for each unit (except Easy to Build SE Retributors).

  • Also Seraphon SC! has 12 Warriors, the regular box has 20.

  • On the 40K list there is just "daemons", is the Khornate ones? Remember that Khornate armies have 2 SC!; Bloodbound and Daemons.
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    Baron Klatz wrote:
    Whoops, are they? I googled Chris Peach's stuff and these appeared along with them.Though I have watched Duncan put together one on Warhammer TV but put it down as just coincidence.


    I don't think anyone could blame you- I thought they were Chris Peaches at first also from initial googling, but it seems more along the lines of he and Duncan got to chatting about potential conversions. I kind of wish they hadn't as know they've spoiled my originality should I ever post my conversions anywhere

       
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    Jacob29 wrote:
    On the topic of start collecting.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oRc9VD-HOtaRnr58EKKzm7cSthbvirQ3MXie3YQ68hc/edit#gid=0

    I made a spreadsheet which has all of the start collecting boxes and their rough appropriate points costs and individual costs.

    The Fyreslayers is amazing value, almost the most value box out of 40k AND fantasy.

    The problem with some of these comparisons though is its hard to say if the individual units are overpriced or if the box is just too good to be true.


    If true I'm tempted to have a go at them.
       
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    Regular Dakkanaut




    CMLR wrote:
    Jacob29 wrote:
    On the topic of start collecting.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oRc9VD-HOtaRnr58EKKzm7cSthbvirQ3MXie3YQ68hc/edit#gid=0

    I made a spreadsheet which has all of the start collecting boxes and their rough appropriate points costs and individual costs.

    The Fyreslayers is amazing value, almost the most value box out of 40k AND fantasy.

    The problem with some of these comparisons though is its hard to say if the individual units are overpriced or if the box is just too good to be true.


    Thanks for sharing! however, I'd like to correct you on some points:

  • Currently Termie Captains are available from the Deatwatch range, which is getting purged right now, but still...

  • What do you mean with "cut down"? All of them have the minimum models needed for each unit (except Easy to Build SE Retributors).

  • Also Seraphon SC! has 12 Warriors, the regualr box has 20.

  • On the 40K list there is just "daemons", is the Khornate ones? Remember that Khornate armies have 2 SC!; Bloodbound and Daemons.


  • I'll fix em all when I get a chance

    If it's a "cut down" it means the start collecting box has less than the standard box.

    E.g you can only get prosecutors in boxes of 6, but you get 3 in the start collecting. So I just halved the price. It's very rough!
       
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    Right behind you.

    Path to Glory is up for preorder.
    $33.
       
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    Longtime Dakkanaut






    The new start collectings are up on the NZ site. And the Fyrelsayers one is exactly as thought. Be picking up two or three of those i believe. Kind of amusing seeing the Magmadroth listed at the same price directly below it. No one's ever buying that seperately again.
       
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    And almost no one will ever buy the stonehorn guy again for beastclaw either lol.
       
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    Right behind you.

    Weren't Magmadroths $110ish?
       
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    165 on the NZ site. Exactly the same price as the start collecting.
       
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     Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
    The new start collectings are up on the NZ site. And the Fyrelsayers one is exactly as thought. Be picking up two or three of those i believe. Kind of amusing seeing the Magmadroth listed at the same price directly below it. No one's ever buying that seperately again.

    If you read the product description it says that if you order the magmadroth you will recieve the start collecting box, so it looks like they will not sell the magmadroth individually at all.
       
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    Not too surprising. I wonder if that will start to become an ongoing thing with kits like the Carnosaur and Stonehorn?
       
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    Right behind you.

     Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
    165 on the NZ site. Exactly the same price as the start collecting.

    Yes, and they say $85 on the US site now.

    I swear they were closer to $110.

    Also, Carnosaur has been "No Longer Available" for ages. The Stonehorn is $58 USD, so it's not as bad as it was with the Carnosaur.
       
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    Florence, KY

     Kanluwen wrote:
     Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
    165 on the NZ site. Exactly the same price as the start collecting.

    Yes, and they say $85 on the US site now.

    I swear they were closer to $110.

    Also, Carnosaur has been "No Longer Available" for ages. The Stonehorn is $58 USD, so it's not as bad as it was with the Carnosaur.

    The Carnosaur has been showing as 'Temporarily Out of Stock' on the US web store for about a month now.

    'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
    cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
    defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

    - Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
    Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
     
       
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    Right behind you.

     Ghaz wrote:
     Kanluwen wrote:
     Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
    165 on the NZ site. Exactly the same price as the start collecting.

    Yes, and they say $85 on the US site now.

    I swear they were closer to $110.

    Also, Carnosaur has been "No Longer Available" for ages. The Stonehorn is $58 USD, so it's not as bad as it was with the Carnosaur.

    The Carnosaur has been showing as 'Temporarily Out of Stock' on the US web store for about a month now.

    That's new then. Prior to that, it was "No Longer Available". It started back in January to show as such.
       
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    Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain




    Vigo. Spain.

    Magmadroth was 85€ in Europe. So if they cost now like the start collecting thats a price drop of 20 € (SC! are 65€ in Europe).
    Is this the first direct price drop in a product that GW has done... ever? Instead of just repackaging them going up in total price but lowering the price per model.

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     Crimson Devil wrote:

    Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

    ERJAK wrote:
    Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

     
       
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    Is the slaanesh start collecting box 10 daemonettes, 5 seekers, 1 exalted chariot like it was rumored ?

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    Vigo. Spain.

     Rydria wrote:
    Is the slaanesh start collecting box 10 daemonettes, 5 seekers, 1 exalted chariot like it was rumored ?


    Yes. A exalted chariot that can be made two normal chariots.

     Crimson Devil wrote:

    Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.

    ERJAK wrote:
    Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.

     
       
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     Galas wrote:
     Rydria wrote:
    Is the slaanesh start collecting box 10 daemonettes, 5 seekers, 1 exalted chariot like it was rumored ?


    Yes. A exalted chariot that can be made two normal chariots.


    Does the Exalted Chariot also come with a Herald? Could potentially make her for foot?
       
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    Cataphract wrote:
     Galas wrote:
     Rydria wrote:
    Is the slaanesh start collecting box 10 daemonettes, 5 seekers, 1 exalted chariot like it was rumored ?


    Yes. A exalted chariot that can be made two normal chariots.


    Does the Exalted Chariot also come with a Herald? Could potentially make her for foot?
    Chariots have a head option that is for heralds
       
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    Regular Dakkanaut




    Xalapa, Veracruz, Mexico

    In case you are lazy, I'll link the to the Beastclaw Raiders, Fyreslayers and Daemons of Slaanesh Start Collecting! bundles.

     Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
    The new start collectings are up on the NZ site. And the Fyrelsayers one is exactly as thought. Be picking up two or three of those i believe. Kind of amusing seeing the Magmadroth listed at the same price directly below it. No one's ever buying that seperately again.


    Nah, there is always someone. Always.

    Chikout wrote:
    If you read the product description it says that if you order the magmadroth you will recieve the start collecting box, so it looks like they will not sell the magmadroth individually at all.


    Now, that sounds quite tragic for me, honestly. I mean, does that mean that the Magmadroth was so poorly sold that it not only had to get a price drop, be included on a SC!, and on top of that, it will no longer be available outside of the SC! bundle? I guess I was right after all but, that's... sad...

     Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
    Not too surprising. I wonder if that will start to become an ongoing thing with kits like the Carnosaur and Stonehorn?


    So far, no. It makes sense since either of them surpassed that hard the SC! price as the Magmadroth.

     Kanluwen wrote:
    Yes, and they say $85 on the US site now.

    I swear they were closer to $110.

    Also, Carnosaur has been "No Longer Available" for ages. The Stonehorn is $58 USD, so it's not as bad as it was with the Carnosaur.


    I only see the Magmadroth, not the SC! yet.

    But what I saw was some new rebased Wild Riders and Sisters of the Thorn, and looking at the international store, Hammerers, Longbeards, Grave Guard, Dispossessed Warriors, Moonclan Grots, Hexwraiths and Black Knights.

    And only for USA has Carnosaurs unavailable, the rest of the world can still buy them.

     Rydria wrote:
    Is the slaanesh start collecting box 10 daemonettes, 5 seekers, 1 exalted chariot like it was rumored ?


    It does, but it doesn't say anything about being able to split the Exalted Chariot. I hope it does, given that the Seekers of Slaanesh are featured on oval bases instead insted of biker bases.

    It'd like to point out that the Slaaneshi chariots pages and descriptions are better in the 40K catalog than the AoS ones. The Exalted Chariot, according to the 40K description, was meant to be available until the stock lasted, so did the Exalted Chariot sold poorly?

    Cataphract wrote:
    Does the Exalted Chariot also come with a Herald? Could potentially make her for foot?


    Almost every time a big model has a leader on top of it it has an option to build it on foot. That has been the case since many time.

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    Fyreslayers start collecting box is awesome - shut up and take my money

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    - Fyreslayers
    - Dispossessed
    - Death
    - Bloodbound 
       
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    Here's an interesting thing.
    The physical path to glory book is $65. The ebook is $17! That is quite a price difference.
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