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At the risk of everyone looking for my head: I dislike that griffon quite A LOT.

I don't know why, but I feel like the art-to-model transition is quite lame. And of course is a really cool model, but is not of my taste.

That being said, while I would like a constant stream of new models, this is really good to see that there is room for certain discontinued models to return. I still feel bad for not getting the Glade Riders, there was no lore discrepancy for them to not being here.

For the Rumor Engine: those eyes makes me think that is a Tzeentchian disk, or maybe some daemon engine/chariot.

Also I'm sure that this and the staff from two weeks ago are from the same miniature, serving as mount.

Considering the Tzaangor tease, this could mean that the Arcanite release is actually happening...

At the risk of everyone looking for my head: I dislike that griffon quite A LOT.

I don't know why, but I feel like the art-to-model transition is quite lame. And of course is a really cool model, but is not of my taste.

That being said, while I would like a constant stream of new models, this is really good to see that there is room for certain discontinued models to return. I still feel bad for not getting the Glade Riders, there was no lore discrepancy for them to no being here.

 nicromancer wrote:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Age-of-Sigmar-Spire-of-Dawn-ENG

Up on new zealand site.
Doesn't seem to suggest while stocks last or limited release, and obviously price conversion isn't going to give a northern hemisphere price because GW have a dart board for choosing exchange rates.

The Battleforces either, but now those have been sold out in the rest of the world.

I don't think GW will give this box the Space Hulk tho, so I really doubt this guys will be out of stock for a while, they are adapting the models to fit in AoS, taking place in floating isles and so.

Yet, they branded every Battleforce name, and they are only lasting one week, so...

And actually, yes, you can make a price convertion; the Spire of Dawn costs $165 NZD, exactly the same as any SC!.

Lord Kragan wrote:
Maybe the battleforce boxes are a test-up to see if they are viable or not. Considering the IJ sold like hot-cakes as well as a few others we MAY see another re-run.

No; the Ironjawz sold really well (I'm surprised, there was lots of people complaining about the gargant), the Sylvaneth sold like cakes from an extremely talented respotry chef.

They are of course viable: make a basic army with two purchases only? that is really convenient and can actually answer what several other companies do with expansions to basic armies.

I do think this boxes could get a re-run easily; many Fantasy miniatures did it, and many people wanted to get some boxes (many of us I'm sure) but for different reasons they couldn't. Certainly they had a great demand, damn, the only boxes that didn't sold out in half of the world are the Khorne Bloodbounds, every other AoS boxes were sold out in just a week.

The only thing we all can do is asking the Battleforces to return via Facebook; not a spam campaing, but a consistent petitioin. If we can't get them as permanent additions, we could still get them every December, or each major vacation.

 nicromancer wrote:

Osorios wrote:
I'm amazed how different the models look with round bases. You wouldn't think that it makes a difference, but it somehow does.

I wonder why they didn't decide to have the box ship out in time for Christmas.

Kid's get cash and vouchers for christmas and go into GW store. They see age of sigmar and decide "WOW, i want to get into that" but they can't afford the big starter box.
This is the perfect after christmas "cheap" option for kids to blow their cash on.


(kids including me,...)

Hey, we are all kid in our hearts and parts of our minds, that is a requirement for all of us .

 Whirlwind wrote:

Davor wrote:
I am curious as to why square bases are included as well for an Age of Sigmar product. Is this letting GW let people use what they want still? I think that is great.

I find this intriguing as well. I'm not sure that the argument of letting people choose really stacks up considering they have spent the last 18 months reboxing things and removing square/rectangular bases from them. It's possible they are just trying to clear a lot of old bases, but then why the purge on other box sets?

There's perhaps the possibility that they are recognising that there is still a market for ranked games? If we start to see more box sets with both round and square bases it will be interesting.

Or maybe they try to please those players that sweared to their patron gods to avenge "muh gaem" and will destroy AoS much like GW destroyed Fantasy.

What do you mean with ranked? competitive games or rows? because for the first you can play with roundbases or proxies, for the second yeah, agree.

 Binabik15 wrote:
I find it funny that I could get the Thunderfist from my FLOGS on Thursday at a reduced price, but now it's sold out on GW site. I thought I was the only who wanted them.

Got an AdMech box for my brother- without -XX% though- but NOW he says he also wants the Sylvaneth one from our dad. NOW. Not last week when I told him they were limited, no. Punk.

I had a conversion idea needing Rat Ogre legs, but I forget what.

Yeah, I find weird the general bashing the Ironjawz got at release but now they were the second Battleforce to sold out. That ruined me, I wanted to get the 4 AoS boxes for sake of completeness.

You can still get discounts from independet retailers, but not the practical all-in-one box.

 shinros wrote:
Not sure if this is exactly "news" but I think it's pretty neat.


Right I was just browsing the games work shop store when I came across this.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Ironjawz-Orruk-Gordrakk-on-Bigteef

When did GW start doing this? This is AMAZING unless I am a slowpoke people are sharing their own painted models and GW are posting em up.

Gordrakk ? he was being around since the rest of Ironjawz.

... Ooooh, the gallery, it's being months, August or Spetember, it had an entry on the webstore blog.

Almost every IoB/Spiredawn sold out.

This has to be a horrible Christmas.

That being the case, I can sleep like a baby. I can just suggest them to re-release the Battleforces next December or maybe each time there is a campaing/season, or maybe even Made to Order!

 shinros wrote:
Also elf/alf fans

What an amazing leak, and I love the fact that not only my guesses were right about the staff and disc showed preivously on the Rumor Engine, but the model itelsef kicks butt!

Now, what do we have?

Tzaangors, Kairic Acolytes, the Moon guy that has that green vulture should be a special weapon guy. And if you noticed, right behing him there is a Scroll wielder, I'd say that it's their version of a banner.

That Greater Tzaangor on disk has to be the main leader.

Now, the Tzaangors on disks (and I think one of them has a bow) at the very bottom should be their answer to big cavalry units, which could be pretty awesome on the table, meanwhile the Tzaangors on foot just at the front center of them seems quite bigger than the rest, maybe they are their elite units.

I have a doubt, tho, could those Tzaangors be compatible with 40K?

I can't wait to see if they will get a SC!

 shinros wrote:
Yeah that elf appears to be the god of all knowledge and magic now well the good god of knowledge and magic. The short story pretty much shows that the elf/Aelf gods may have human followers here and there since they were a pantheon in the age of myth. The short story follows a human wizard trying to find the end of the realms and Sigmar and alarielle the everqueen go over his life and his travel there.

I suspect after this short story it won't surprise me to see Alarielle reaching out to the wanderer's again at some point in the future. Also details on the cosmology of the mortal realms in context of Realms end, also dwarfs/Duardin pretty much act how we all expect them to act considering the encounter with Grungi's Temple guard.

The short story starts with pretty much sigmar going over the past and how the pantheon are "divine" survivors of the world that was.

It wasn't that, it was "Alf", because the typo...

NVM.

I would really like to see a merged Khorne and Nurgle display soon, I mean technically Slaaneshi are already on the same display after all.

But what I would really love is to make a Disciples Battletome for each other Chaos God: Khornate, Nurglesque, Slaaneshi and Skaven on one same book., everyone with their own artifacts, traits and abilities.

Later on they could expand this to every Order Faction that got separated with the AoS transition, one for Aelves, one for Duardins and one for Humans.

They could also do this with some Death factions that are just too small to play right now.

Now, I would say you to consider that that, while the Tzeentchian chariots are sold out on UK and rest of the world, they are available on NZ, and nowhere to be found on the Aus site, so yeah, hold on.

I would love to see an eventual SC! with Tzeentchian daemons; one pinkies unit, one flamers unit, one screamers unit and one chariot. It might be released on few months.

I would like to see if they could also release an Arcanites SC!, using one unit of every Tzaangor, but it's better to wait for the actual rules before take any guesses.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:
The Ogroid Thaumaturge is $41 USD..... What in the Holy Hell....
Also book and dice already sold out =/ so lame

At least that book says "Temporarily out of stock". I was going to get the 40k genestealer cults codex but that one says "no longer available".

GW - doing what it can to discourage people from buying their models.

GSC? Codexes everywhere are being sould out, kind of obviously because a new edition.

Man, I've gotta say: I love this models.

I've always loved the SE, I do recognize they are the direct counterpart to the Space Marines, but I don't give a damn, for me they look far more akin to Greek-Roman legionaries. Still, although those crossbow-guns look weird, they look much better than the first ones, imo.

I just feel them much more realistic (as it gets) and and overall great-looking.

And man, I just love that Gryph-hounds pack, they look awesome, like any GW Gryph.

But what I'm hyped for are the Gryph-chargers. I bet they are Stormcasts-scaled Demi-gryphs. Those guys are gonna be HUGE.

With the new SE Battletome, I'm gonna expect more updated ones for the factions already released, I'd like the next to be a new Seraphon one, and I can easily see they making the same for the other Chaos gods, as well as a new Battletome for Aelvish, Duradin, and Human armies. They might as well launch one with the smaller Death armies.

Also, I'm surprised no one has pointed out that yet, but there is a P.S. at the end of the article:

Warhammer Community wrote:We have another reveal from next month’s releases tomorrow. Check back then to find out what

And this alongside the new Battletome really excites me; there are chances to see new miniatures for several armies each in a while.

 Ghaz wrote:

Spoiler:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/23/the-vanguard-of-the-storm/

Seriqolm wrote:

Spoiler:

I can barely see the differences!

 Kanluwen wrote:

Wayniac wrote:
The only issue I have with this is its basically a Stormcast 2.0 book, when there are other factions that haven't gotten any books at all. Seems they are going back to the style of updating Space Marines constantly throughout the life of the game while ignoring others.

Truthfully, it seems less like "Stormcast 2.0" and more like 3rd edition 40k, where you got tiny little "update books" for SM. Just if those books also included the stuff you needed too.

But this is not an "update book", they said this is a reworked SE Battletome, to match the DoT format.

Baron Klatz wrote:
Eh, maybe. Depends on what happens after the last few chambers are revealed. I think there's only two left with one of those being auxiliaries.

 Carnikang wrote:

Baron Klatz wrote:

They needed an updated book anyway since the Sylvaneth book added in new game elements like the relics.

Seraphon reissue please. They don't have Allegiances or Relics either.

True but Fyreslayers first, they don't even have a start collecting set(yet?).

Ain't happening, not until they release a few more units and/or reduce the Magmadroths to the same price of a Carnosaur.

I once mentioned the contents for a SC! DoT kit, and I'm glad my guessings where correct.

Now, I'm wondering if there will be a SC! Tzeentch Arcanites; 10 Acolytes, 5 Tzaangos and 3 Disc Tzaangors already worths £50, then they could add a Tzaangor Shaman, but if that's the case, the SC! would be too, TOO damn good, since it seems you want some few Shamans to buff your Tzaangors anyway, so... an Ogroid Thaumaturge? anyway.

I like the Stormcasts, I liked the Lord-Achilor quite a lot, but I didn't liked this mount quite a lot, it needs far more feathers Imo, and those horns? lol nope, but I can see they have hooves instead paws on the back limbs. And the paint job here does NOT help, it looks far more like a plucked chick/cub griffon than an adult individual.

Is this a big demyhippogryph, or should I name it "gryraffe"?

But those gryph-chargers look sweet, and the ballista marksmen too, that raptor bird is lovely and their ballistas are using a support pole, which adds a cool and a thin realism layer, although... yeah, the poles could've been even better, but still the weapons themselves look awesome.

Still, I'd like something for Death or Destruction, but if they are going to update the original battletomes, that's also good, it would be more problematic if they keep on releasing new battletomes while letting the pre-Sylvaneth ones getting older and older.

Next battletome could be "Khornate Warriors", including daemons, Khorne Bloodbounds and Slaves to Darkness units.

P.S.:

OgreChubbs wrote:

Spoiler:

That's not even freakin funny I got like a mad phobia of birds...... We never had a good....... Relationship.

Attacked by a few gini hens a crow and a pidgin. Also there was this freaking quail nest outside my house a couple years ago.... My god those fees can run...... And bite they don't peck like a punch they stab and bite. Also there is like 20 eagles flying around in the summer who are not afraid to kill love stock. Devil creatures from the sky I tells ya

Birds also ALWAYS go for your face and they flap like demons from hell its self. But these birds lack a certain raptor look and more of a cluck cluck look.

The worse thing I ever seen in my life was a emu...... omg..... If I ever go to hell he will be there waiting for me.

*Clears his throat*:

 Vermis wrote:

CMLR wrote:I like the Stormcasts, I liked the Lord-Achilor quite a lot, but I didn't liked this mount quite a lot, it needs far more feathers Imo, and those horns? lol nope, but I can see they have hooves instead paws on the back limbs.

Are the hooves a good or a bad thing?

While I (somehow) forgot to put "so this are not demigryphs, but something more akin to hippogryphs", try to quote the whole idea.

The paints job make it look weird, like a plucked chick-ffon? with irritated skin on the forehead. Just weird.

But now that I have seen that turquise colours, it has grown on me.

Still, the regular mounts look better imo.

Now, I'm glad with the basic troop reboxes, tbh the main drawback for me to buy some extra troops is because the price for so few models.

£30 or so for 5 Liberators or Judicators? but a Chaos Warriors Regiment has 16 models with basically the same stat profiles as them, just for £5 more.

I sincerely hope the reboxing fix the price issue.

Some guy at Lustria-Online noticed this on the USA site:



I'm pretty sure is just an error, but I would love to see if GW upgrade the Carnosaur sprue to give more options, maybe a howdah full of skins, or maybe even a new Arcanodon sprue.

If not, I hope this means that a new Seraphon BT is going to be released soon.

But, realistically is possibly just a price reduction, because plenty of people is already buying the SC! kit instead the Carno alone.

What? I can see the image, what could've been?

The Vanguard Hunters rules are quite fun.

The Gryph-hounds rules are the same as the older ones. We've to see if there is a change in size, it could be 3, considering the sprues and that you can make 2 alphas.

willb2064 wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
Nice to see price reductions and nice to see Fyreslayer point reductions!

I hope when the Duardin get redone they have a super battletome that combines Fyreslayers and all the kits get price reductions too. £40 for a box of Longbeards, Ironbreakers or Vulkite Beserkers all seems good to me!

Still waiting for a Fyreslayers SC box. Hopefully we'll get one this year.

No until they reduce the price of the Magmadroth.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
the mono-pose Draegon™

You mean Stardrake.

I mean, c'mon, it might sound quite cheesy, but is not a stupid name, for once you guys could be fair.

And this is slight format change, with a font size adjusted.

So the Liberators and Judicators are just £7.5 more expensive with twice the miniatures as before?

At last, they went from £6 per model to £3.75 per model. This is much more bearable now. I can buy a box of each now, maybe two.

The Judicators are £10 more expensive for twice the models it used to have; from £11.66 (rounded up) to £7.5. A bit expensive, but it's still nice to see the actual reduction.

Ironically, the reboxes affected the SC! kit negatively, since now you are buying half of the Liberators and Prosecutors kits. You used to save £45, now you only save £21.25.

That's huge.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

CMLR wrote:
You mean Stardrake.

I mean, c'mon, it might sound quite cheesy, but is not a stupid name, for once you guys could be fair.

And this is slight format change, with a font size adjusted.

1. Stardrake is a good name, IMO.
2. I wrote that because I honestly couldn't remember the actual name, so when in doubt at 'ae's and 'y's to regular words and you're bound to end up close.
3. I don't gotta be fair 'bout nuthin'.

You gotta be fair 'bout sumthin'; you think is a good name, but you dared to mock off the model's name by not remembering it and "GW" it.

Not cool dude.

Lord Redomir is a Chaos Sorcerer Lord of Slaanesh.

He is the mastermind behind the Chaos attack.

Now that's really good.

I hope this means that at least we'll know something about Slaanesh later this year.

 Binabik15 wrote:
The birdies are coupled with the goofy gun guys? Bummer.

Hey, for once they carry cool crossbows.

 Carnikang wrote:

CMLR wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:
The birdies are coupled with the goofy gun guys? Bummer.

Hey, for once they carry cool crossbows.

I don't need any Devastators though. I just want the Birds.

But those are NOT Devastators.

THIS is a Devastator.

 Carnikang wrote:
Ones a Plasma Gunner the Other is a Heavy Boltor

But to be serious, They don't look half bad. I'll probably get a kit, split the birds for the wife and the Marines for the kid.

But that's not a heavy bolter.

THIS are heavy bolters:



For once this guys use more realistic crossbows. The longstrike could still use another support pole, but meh, I'll take 'em.

Still, yes, I would prefer two kits: the aetherwings and the Raptors, more because you can play the Raptors on their own and the aetherwings have a special rule if you play them alongside a Raptor unit, like the gryph-hound that accompanies the Lord-Castellant. And the gryph-hounds got their own kit.

Bleh, I wouldn't like to see yearly reboxes, tbh.

A motherf-- winged snake on a motherf-- Kharadron airship.

This will be a Druchii release, or maybe a Vampire release.

And that's bloody awesome.

Okay, enough jokes.

Thebiggesthat wrote:
Those skeleton dudes have some interesting headdress

Yes, indeed, look almost like if they came from... Nehekhara...

A better size comparison between the Kharadron airships (the Ironclad is MASSIVE), Blades of Khorne prices, and some Shadow War stuff: http://www.miniwars.eu/2017/03/white-dwarf-abril.html

 Verviedi wrote:
Because posting images, and not just links, is important.

Not as important as giving credits to the source. Basic rules for scientific and investigation articles.

Now, don't you think we are starting to figure out a SC! for Kharadron Overlords too soon?

While its true every AoS big release got a SC!, we have still to see the full rules for them.

Also, I'm still waiting to see if there will be an Arcanite SC!.

 Verviedi wrote:
Thankfully, we're not writing scientific articles here. I do generally post sources with my articles. Still irksome when someone posts a random link without copying the article.

Unfortunately, the mere fact of give information away to share opinions and create speculation about events to come is science at its most fundamental level.

Also, is just a link to see pics, its not like suddenly Lady Atia leaked some info on Klingon and I just posted the link without trying to give a translated idea.

 Verviedi wrote:
I love science, it's truly interesting, and I enjoy browsing random scientific articles to learn new things. I know what science is. This is a forum thread that has the goal of collecting leaked images and information about future releases, not a thread that's trying to create something new in any way. It is a library, not a laboratory. Libraries carry books, not just links to where you can find books.

I do not like following links to get pics. It takes a tiny amount of time or effort to embed images on this thread, and standard procedure should be copy/pasting the article and images, along with a link to the source at the top or bottom. A random link is very easy to miss for the casual reader. For example, I scroll through these rumor threads looking for images and large quotes, because more often than not those contain useful information. Links are much easier to miss than copied articles.

Science still need to compile info for speculation, on a philosophical level, we do science always when we look out for information to get conclusions. Libraries are getting obsolete each day it passes. If you are signed to, let say, Science, you don't have a reason to ever post someting else aside the abstract when the article for plenty of reasons.

Also, it's quite exaggerated to dislike just to click one. Also, links are denotaed on a different size and colour. I mean, c'mon.

And like a fellow member said:

While posting images is not always ok, links usually are.

I shared that same link before on other thread, and another fellow member posted the exact same pics from that link before me, but they got deleted. By now a number of use knows that is not so rare to see images deleted for some reason, but links usually stay here. I recognize the value of images, and I get your point about quick reading for a news section, but for large, external articles, with around 20 images, the tiny amount of time and effort starts to increase exponentially, passing over here the pics and using spoilers start to require some additional edition. It wouldn't be a problem for 3 or so pics, but for larger articles, yes, it'd be safer to link directly.

Slaughterbrute + Bloodsecrator + Bloodstoker = RAGE

The Mutalith didn't got a massive boost, but still it has always been a pain to fight against.

 EnTyme wrote:
It'll be interesting to see if Nurgle and Slaanesh get their own Monster of Chaos when their armies get updated. I could see a Jabberslythe of Nurgle or a Chimera of Slaanesh being thematic.

I was thinking about the same, however, Jabberslythes are currently resin kits. Hopefully will get a better idea of what's next for Nurgle on AoS alongside the coming Death Guard release. I'm still hoping that those Nurgle mutants can be built with upgrade sprues, like Tzaangors.

 EnTyme wrote:
I'm already trying to figure out what the best oval base size will be for it (not a fan of square/rectangle bases).

I don't like four-sided bases for the bigger models either.

The120x92mm base seems to be the most common oval base used for monsters and chariots. All the Seraphon monsters use it, Chaos Chariots, Manticores and Warshrines use them. The only monsters that use a different oval bases are Stardrakes, using 170x105mm bases, and Drycha and Treelords, using 105x70mm bases.

 Future War Cultist wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
I'm already trying to figure out what the best oval base size will be for it (not a fan of square/rectangle bases).

I'm not quite sure how big the Slaughterbrute is, but I'll assume that what we want is the 170x105mm base. This one here.

No, you don't want it. Only the Stardrakes, Imperial Knights and Stormsurges use that base size.

 EnTyme wrote:

 Future War Cultist wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
I'm already trying to figure out what the best oval base size will be for it (not a fan of square/rectangle bases).

I'm not quite sure how big the Slaughterbrute is, but I'll assume that what we want is the 170x105mm base. This one here.

Actually just found a chart of all bases used for fantasy (I need to bookmark that when I get home), and it looks like the Slaughterbrute used the same size base as the Chaos Chariot, so it should fit on the same size base that that one uses now (120mmx92mm). The 170mmx105mm would be the same one used by Imperial Knights and the Tau Stormsurge. Though come to think of it, I could probably use one of those and have room left over for something else. Maybe a dead Stormcast or something. Hmmm.

I'd tell you to not base yourself entirely on it (no pun intended). As examples: Terradons and Spawns used 40mm square bases on Fantasy, but now use 50mm round bases on AoS, even while there are 40mm round bases; the Chaos Knights currently use bigger bases than the Marauders Horsemen, while they used the same base sizes on Fantasy; and the Slaves to Darkness Lord on Daemonic Mount use the same oval base as the Knights, while the Nurgle CL on Daemonic Mount, now Harbinger of Decay, uses a 60mm round base.

Chikout wrote:
Giants are getting a warscroll update too. Details not confirmed yet but may add ironjawz keyword.

I'd like to see if they get new options for different factions, but I don't think they have to be only for Ironjawz. I still can't understand why people think that the Ironjawz Battleforce' Gargant was useless when you can deploy any unit of any faction of your Grand Alliance. Your chosen allegiance do not affect which units you can deploy.

 EnTyme wrote:
In the last few months, Tzeentch, Stormcasts, and Khorne have each been combined from 2 subfactions into one.

Stormcasts never where splitted in subfactions. Extremis Chamber have never been a keyword. They were an expansion, even while GW had a filter for them, although unlike Chaos Mortals and Daemons, they never got an actual keyword to differentiate them.

Now the elves, on the other hand...