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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/15 00:37:03
Subject: Starting Chaos, is an old battalion a good starting point?
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Average Orc Boy
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Having a bit of sticker shock at the silver tower, I decided to pick up AoS proper and obtained an old chaos battalion and chaos lord. Aside from rebasing, it feels like a complete faction
With 1 lord, 12 warriors, 5 knights, 20 marauders and 10 hounds is there anything else I should add to make a well-rounded AoS force?
If Chaos Undivided is still a thing, I'll go down that pathway. If not, I'll have a look at the individual gods. I fought against Sigmar's forces in the old world and I shall fight them in these new ones, for the glory of the dark gods! and personal glory as always
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/15 01:39:35
Subject: Starting Chaos, is an old battalion a good starting point?
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Fixture of Dakka
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In AoS you can field anything and everything. This can change once this new book comes out in the summer. (sorry forget the name, General Handbook?)
So depending on the house rules where you play, field what you want unless someone tells you that you can't. And then, do you really want to play against those people?
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/15 03:11:03
Subject: Starting Chaos, is an old battalion a good starting point?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Those forces are pretty solid.
The generic chaos lord is still one of the most powerful chaos heroes (whether on foot or mounted).
The warriors, knights, and marauders are solid troops. The hounds are fast, but lack durability.
In AoS terms, all of these troops are considered part of the Slaves to Darkness. You can add a mark of one of the individual chaos gods if you wish ... the Lord of Chaos gets a buff for free from the chaos god he worships, and his followers may also get a buff.
There are only two things you might consider:
1) Either a magic user or a counter to magic (i.e. a chaos sorcerer, or flesh hounds, etc. to counter magic).
2) A big monster, i.e. Archaon on Dorghar, a chaos lord or sorcerer on a manticore, a slaughter brute, mutalith or ghorgon, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/15 05:10:54
Subject: Starting Chaos, is an old battalion a good starting point?
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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I would recommend picking up GW's plastic chaos sorcerer, its a good model at a solid price and rounds out your force perfectly. If you are the type who likes hard copies of the rules then the Grand Alliance: Chaos book would be another good buy. Chaos Undivided is still very much a thing ("Slaves to Darkness") so there are no problems there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/15 06:09:52
Subject: Re:Starting Chaos, is an old battalion a good starting point?
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Average Orc Boy
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Ok, I've a generic chaos sorcerer who can be re-based then. Might try and find the Tzeentch one as I like the look of that one better.
I'm not a fan of the bigger beasties, but are things like the Lhammasu and Cockatrice still around?
Thanks for the help guys
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/15 14:12:45
Subject: Starting Chaos, is an old battalion a good starting point?
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Welcome. Also unless you and/or your group have all decided to go with round bases, there's no need to rebase the models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/15 16:27:36
Subject: Starting Chaos, is an old battalion a good starting point?
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Fixture of Dakka
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privateer4hire wrote:Welcome. Also unless you and/or your group have all decided to go with round bases, there's no need to rebase the models.
That is what I was going to say until I saw Privateer4hire said it. No need to rebase. Rebasing is a Nerd/Geek thing, not a GW thing at all. Just use the base that came with the original minis with.
Unless it's a personal choice this rebasing things make us geeks and nerds look so petty.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/15 18:00:50
Subject: Re:Starting Chaos, is an old battalion a good starting point?
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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SpinCycleDreadnought wrote:Ok, I've a generic chaos sorcerer who can be re-based then. Might try and find the Tzeentch one as I like the look of that one better.
I'm not a fan of the bigger beasties, but are things like the Lhammasu and Cockatrice still around?
Thanks for the help guys 
What you might want to do is add the excellent value Start Collecting: Slave To Darkness set. Bundled together with a significant discount, is another 12 warrors and 6 Knights (that and the Battleforce and you're absolutely sorted for basic troops), a Chariot which might make a nice companion to the Knights, and the newer plastic Sorcerer.
Otherwise, as mentioned, a monster is a good call, As for those specific examples, the models are probably gone by now, but if you already happened to have the models, or can find them second hand, then there will be rules in the AoS app in theory (which is highly recommended as a way to manage the Warscrolls for your army).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/15 18:46:49
Subject: Starting Chaos, is an old battalion a good starting point?
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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Unless you will be using these miniatures also for WHFB or another ranked game like KoW, I strongly recommend you base them on circles.
For all everyone says "bases don't matter" you will have a much more enjoyable time in the pile-in phase of everything is on rounds. Squares cause all kinds of annoying angles.
Otherwise I second getting the Slaves To Darkness box. Or... If you are leaning towards tzeentch why not get the WHQ set? :-)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/15 20:28:08
Subject: Re:Starting Chaos, is an old battalion a good starting point?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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That force is a very nice starting force. I would add a Sorcerer and some Dragon Ogors to pack a punch (and look cool) - that'll give you a complete army to get a feel for the game before adding even more toys
EDIT: Oh, and definately rebasing!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/15 20:40:10
Subject: Starting Chaos, is an old battalion a good starting point?
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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Oh, Dragon Ogres is a great idea! You don't often see them on the table in my experience too, so it"ll be a treat for your opponent as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/15 21:03:03
Subject: Starting Chaos, is an old battalion a good starting point?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Do not rebase for the love of god lol. AoS is probly not going to be around long since they gave an investor warning. Also if you ever want to resell round bases will be a majour flaw to a model.
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