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The Ork codex lost all the background. And with the Orks, and Gretchen being slaves to the Brain Boys.
For me, it took away the fun of having an Ork Army.

Thoughts?

Wait, they took that away? That was such a cool thing!

just because a 'dex doesn't specificly SAY such a thing, doesn't mean it's not still there. honestly I felt the 7th edition 'dexes where klnda weak over all in the fluff department. Space Marines being easily the strongest because they where willing to add another 10 pages or so

Yes, but imagine a newbie, buying the ork codex. For him, everything that isn't in the Codex doesn't exist.

Huh? The brainboyz died out. They're only an ork myth at this point. Orks are ruled by nobody buy orks.

ork codex pg. 6 "some ork legends tell of a great plague that lasted for many centuries, causing the brainboyz to die out or devolve." thats from a section on the ork origins.

Its all still there. Not as much as older codexes but ork lore hasn't changed between codexes tbh.

 drunkorc wrote:
The Ork codex lost all the background. And with the Orks, and Gretchen being slaves to the Brain Boys.
For me, it took away the fun of having an Ork Army.

Thoughts?

nothing has been retconned.

Orks are still fungus.

I kinda like how the new codex puts it.

Ork Codex wrote:The other races of the galaxy have many theories
regarding how their numbers increase so quickly. These range from spontaneous physical
division to the release of windblown spores after death. The notorious Vandermeist theorem
even claims that the greenskins inhabit an alternative pocket of reality and simply fall
through, fully formed, wherever others of their kind are already at war. While many of these
wild suggestions are patently ridiculous, it is certainly the case that where one Ork is
encountered, more will never be far away

Automatically Appended Next Post:
It leaves room for the following alternative theory.


Its a stretch but

Vandermeis could be right and there would be a alternative pocket reality filled with greenskins. AoS and 40k could still be connected. The change in wfb to AoS changed the multiverse and resulted in the multiverse always having been this way since warp etc doesn't have a dimension of time.

Orks are not fungus. They are an animal lifeform with a symbiotic relationship with fungus, at least in any fluff I've seen.

"Reproducing by spores" no more equates with "fungus" than "laying eggs" equates with "platypus."

I'll have to dig out the old books, but it was clear Ork are a form of fungus.
That was what, 2 dex's back now?

There is a life cycle pic somewhere too that shows an Ork growing under ground.

It's always been confused because GW writers fail biology forever.

The official line is that Orks are an animal life form that lives in a symbiotic relationship with a fungal life form that grows in their skin.

The only way for both the fungal reproduction method and the orks-are-symbiotes fluff to be true is that the fungal spores contain fertilised ork eggs. Ork Eggs grow into one of the Orkoid races (Squig, Snot, Grot, Ork, Squiggoth) depending on the nutrient/sunlight balance the fungal growths discover. Most fungal growths end up taking root in environments that don't provide the right nutrients for orkoid growth, however, and are just fungal mats... until they spread far enough that they do find the right nutrients, at which point the ork eggs start to mature.

 oldzoggy wrote:
I kinda like how the new codex puts it.

Ork Codex wrote:The other races of the galaxy have many theories
regarding how their numbers increase so quickly. These range from spontaneous physical
division to the release of windblown spores after death. The notorious Vandermeist theorem
even claims that the greenskins inhabit an alternative pocket of reality and simply fall
through, fully formed, wherever others of their kind are already at war. While many of these
wild suggestions are patently ridiculous, it is certainly the case that where one Ork is
encountered, more will never be far away

Automatically Appended Next Post:
It leaves room for the following alternative theory.


Its a stretch but

Vandermeis could be right and there would be a alternative pocket reality filled with greenskins. AoS and 40k could still be connected. The change in wfb to AoS changed the multiverse and resulted in the multiverse always having been this way since warp etc doesn't have a dimension of time.

Well I like that theory. but then I like the idea that really no one knows, basically what's in the codex leaves it open and allows a bit of mystery to remain. The greenskins are an enigma that none of the more civilised races can work out. There just basically Orks, and always will be.

Well, there was an explorator report from a covert investigation on the planet Angelis that confirmed the spore theory, with diagrams, but...

Angry green cabbage patch kids.