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I'm planning on going to a tournament in a couple of months and I was wondering what the opinions of this list were?

There is a limit of one LOW so my partner is taking his Stompa with 2x Strength D massive blasts and 2 squads of tankbustas in gunwagons.

This is my 4th possible list

CAD:
Farseer, Skyrunner - 115 pts

3x Windriders with Scatter Lasers - 81pts
3x Windriders with Scatter Lasers - 81pts
3x Windriders with Scatter Lasers - 81pts
3x Windriders with Scatter Lasers - 81pts

Hornet with 2 Pulse Lasers - 80pts
Hornet with 2 Pulse Lasers - 80pts

Warp Hunter with Holo-Fields - 200pts
Warp Hunter with Holo-Fields - 200pts

Total: 999 points

Yup...This list is really good. I wouldn't change a thing.

An Eldar army without a wraithknight?
Tis the end of days.


Nice to see though and the list looks pretty damn solid.
The stompa should draw enough fire to keep the warp hunters going.

I would be inclined though to drop some bikes and grab a void shield generator.
May help to keep the warp hunters alive longer and gives you a turn of grace or so.

 Jackal wrote:

I would be inclined though to drop some bikes and grab a void shield generator.
May help to keep the warp hunters alive longer and gives you a turn of grace or so.

The tournament does limit one Super Heavy/Gargantuan creature per team and I believe the Stompa to be the better of the two. IMO.

Also, the void shield generator is an interesting idea: it could really help out. But personally, like what you said before, the Stompa will grab a lot of attention as it is and I think the Bikes will be necessary to have at least 4 units in order to have enough by the end game to secure objectives.

Most of the time we will choose to go second and allow my bikes to be objective secured and be able to avoid some drop pod spam should we feel the need to null deploy.

 Farseer of Angau wrote:

the Bikes will be necessary to have at least 4 units in order to have enough by the end game to secure objectives.
[...]
Most of the time we will choose to go second and allow my bikes to be objective secured and be able to avoid some drop pod spam should we feel the need to null deploy.

if you are playing maelstrom missions, eldar (scatter)bikes are terrible objective holders... they are great for grabbing/denying last turn objectives in a EW scenario. but having three fragile bikes sitting on a midfield objective is robbing them of their main strength, i.e. mobility and ranged firepower.

RedNoak wrote:

 Farseer of Angau wrote:

the Bikes will be necessary to have at least 4 units in order to have enough by the end game to secure objectives.
[...]
Most of the time we will choose to go second and allow my bikes to be objective secured and be able to avoid some drop pod spam should we feel the need to null deploy.

if you are playing maelstrom missions, eldar (scatter)bikes are terrible objective holders... they are great for grabbing/denying last turn objectives in a EW scenario. but having three fragile bikes sitting on a midfield objective is robbing them of their main strength, i.e. mobility and ranged firepower.

The game type is a mixture of both Eternal War missions and Maelstrom missions which means that I will only be grabbing possible objectives with the bikes during the game and at the end, I should have something to contest of even capture objectives at the very end.

 Farseer of Angau wrote:
The game type is a mixture of both Eternal War missions and Maelstrom missions which means that I will only be grabbing possible objectives with the bikes during the game and at the end, I should have something to contest of even capture objectives at the very end.

yeah thats why i mentioned that scatterbikes are terrible objective holders

on the other hand, you could ditch two sets of scatterlasers which would free up enough points for another bike unit:
3x scatterbikes 81
3x scatterbikes 81
3x bikes 51
3x bikes 51
3x bikes 51

know you have two units in a fire support role and three units to grab objectives that can jink all day long without hampering your army's shooting capabilities, you should have even enough points to throw in a spear for the farseer

RedNoak wrote:

 Farseer of Angau wrote:
The game type is a mixture of both Eternal War missions and Maelstrom missions which means that I will only be grabbing possible objectives with the bikes during the game and at the end, I should have something to contest of even capture objectives at the very end.

yeah thats why i mentioned that scatterbikes are terrible objective holders

on the other hand, you could ditch two sets of scatterlasers which would free up enough points for another bike unit:
3x scatterbikes 81
3x scatterbikes 81
3x bikes 51
3x bikes 51
3x bikes 51

know you have two units in a fire support role and three units to grab objectives that can jink all day long without hampering your army's shooting capabilities, you should have even enough points to throw in a spear for the farseer

Thats an interesting idea, but I would definitely feel like I was contributing more if I had more fire power than getting a couple more objective points.

Essentially the stompa will be doing most of the heavy lifting, so you will need to be stealing the objectives and picking off key points.


Just remember that there is a fair chance of seeing a revenant or warhound pop up, who quite happily drop strength D templates everywhere.

So while the stompa draws fire, its also likely against certain lists it will go bang and leave you in the open and missing alot of firepower.

Well, the way that this doubles workks is: each player, not team, has his or her own deck of maelstrom cards and you can only score your own set of cards.

So the plan was to have the stompa move up the centre, giving my bikes breathing space to capture closer objectives and for the hornets and hunters to help clear out the spaces where the bikes need to be.

In the end game, there should be enough bikes left alive to contest or capture the eternal war objectives.

The tournament organiser has sepcified that there cannot be one model that is over 500 points in a team's army so Revenant's aren't going to pop up.

if there cannot be one model more than 500 points... how can the ork player field a d-plate firing stompa?

RedNoak wrote:
if there cannot be one model more than 500 points... how can the ork player field a d-plate firing stompa?

When I say that you cannot have a 500 point or over model, the organiser really means that if there is something a little overpowered in such a small points army, then he reserves the ability to say that one cannot use that model.

I believe the Stompa is around the 450 point mark or so anyway. We asked the organiser and he said it was fine. There are however additional points for killing it and it cannot score objectives etc.

i think there is only one stompa under 800points and thats the big mek stompa from buzgobs dread mob (about 500 points). but he doenst have D-plates... he "just" got a str 10 blast and one BS two str D attack. plus the D-Klaw of course but thats only in CC.

It's a Custom Stompa - you can get them dirt cheap.

u mean the imperial armor kustom build one? isnt that written for like 5th edition or so??? where did he get the rules? did i miss a update? i mean the frikking thing doesnt even have hullpoints

RedNoak wrote:
u mean the imperial armor kustom build one? isnt that written for like 5th edition or so??? where did he get the rules? did i miss a update? i mean the frikking thing doesnt even have hullpoints

FW released an update giving all their vehicles hull points aages ago

edit 1: It doesnt look like they included their LoW so nv mind...
edit 2: The forge world "apoc6thupdate" file which no longer exists states that 1 Structure Point = 3 HP. So it does have rules for HPs

RedNoak wrote:
u mean the imperial armor kustom build one? isnt that written for like 5th edition or so??? where did he get the rules? did i miss a update? i mean the frikking thing doesnt even have hullpoints

This is a FW Kustom Stompa and he has given it 2 Bursta Cannons, 2 Bih Shootas and 1 Flamebelcher. this equates to 540pts

 Farseer of Angau wrote:

RedNoak wrote:
u mean the imperial armor kustom build one? isnt that written for like 5th edition or so??? where did he get the rules? did i miss a update? i mean the frikking thing doesnt even have hullpoints

This is a FW Kustom Stompa and he has given it 2 Bursta Cannons, 2 Bih Shootas and 1 Flamebelcher. this equates to 540pts

Hope you've checked with your TO that this is okay despite the no 500pt models ruling

 Brother Payne wrote:

 Farseer of Angau wrote:

RedNoak wrote:
u mean the imperial armor kustom build one? isnt that written for like 5th edition or so??? where did he get the rules? did i miss a update? i mean the frikking thing doesnt even have hullpoints

This is a FW Kustom Stompa and he has given it 2 Bursta Cannons, 2 Bih Shootas and 1 Flamebelcher. this equates to 540pts

Hope you've checked with your TO that this is okay despite the no 500pt models ruling

Yes we did check with the TO (the 500 point limit was more of a guideline, he just doesn't want something too-difficult to take out or too powerful like the Revenant Titan).

No worries then
Let us know how it goes!

 Brother Payne wrote:
No worries then
Let us know how it goes!

Its not for another 3 months yet but will do!