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so building a list for a single eliminations tourney my local game shop is putting on. here is what I have and would like to know what you guys think, I don't have the point values on me at the moment but adds up to about 1847
CAD list

Farseer-singing spear

spirit seer-spirit stone of athanan?

7 man rangers

4x3 scat bikes

10 man wraith guard with cannons and wave serpent with scats and catapult

melee knight

crimson hunter with bright lances
hemlock wraith fighter

Allied detachment

Archon-armour of misery, phantasm gren launcher, blaster, webway portal.

5 kabalites.

Not a bad list at all.

I'd recommend splitting the WG unit up for 4 reasons.
1) 1 unit of 10 is a ton of points and extreme overkill, so splitting it gets more bang for your buck
2) WG are bulky, so only 5 can fit in the Serpent anyway.
3) the Archon cannot deploy in the Serpent due to the FAQ draft, so having 1 unit in the Serpent and 1 unit in the WWP works out well for you
4) 1 unit of 10 can be tarpitted quite easily. Having 2 smaller units makes this less of a lose for you.

Why can't the Archon go in the Serpent? There isn't any rule against it from GW.

its the new FAQ but I wasn't putting them in the serpent I was deep striking them as a whole unit with the serpent just off clearing things plus we weren't using the new FAQ yet anyways cause its not official and after killing the first big thing I was kind of wanting them to tarpit things till my melee knight could get into assault

pm713 wrote:
Why can't the Archon go in the Serpent? There isn't any rule against it from GW.

According to the FAQ draft (it is just a draft mind you, but it is GW official) Battle Brothers cannot "deploy" in their BB's transports. Meaning that if you gaming group has adopted the FAQ (and why wouldn't they?) Wraithgaurd in a Serpent can only be join by an Archon after deployment. You can still deploy him with the WG outside the transport, which is why I suggest splitting them.
1 unit of 5 in the Serpent
1 unit of 5 with the Archon in WWP reserves

hmm two smaller bombs... I really wanted to run the iyanden supplement but was told I wasn't aloud anyways i'll post how the matches go as they go.

I agree only 5 wraithguard in a wavesepent, What you could do it buy a raider for the kabalites, and pay the points to upgrade your wraithguard to go with the template weapon. Then you can
deploy the wraithguard and the dark eldar outside of their vehicle next to each other and switch vehicles. Nasty having D templates in an opentopped vehicle! If you want speed you can add aether sails and star engines instead of the WWP.

Other thought is to lose your spirit seer for an autarch w banshee mask then you can load them up with a CC unit that you add thre autarch and a close combat oriented archom that they can't fire overwatch when you charge.

so first game went incredibly well went vs space marine iron hands razorspam all with t/l assault cannons

HQ: chapter master
command squad
razorback

chaplain

troops x3 5 tac squad 1 melta
razerbacks

x3 5 scouts x2 bolters 1 sniper

grav dev squad 5 man in a razerback

dreadnought with two autocannons

vindicator tank

storm talon

objectives were one point for holding one on your side 2 points for holding opponents side 3 objectives per side. left the wraith bomb and flyers in reserve rangers held objective in cover and bikes started out of LoS, kabalites started in wave serpent dropped them off to hold objective on my side, I had 1st turn glanced 3 razers to death charged his scout squad that infiltrated and scouted with knight.

His turn moved razer with grav devs up disembarked didn't make range with them used remaining assault cannons on knight 2 wounds left, moved his tacs towards obj on his side for points.

turn 2: all reserves made it in and it was basically over psychic shrieked is command squad killed 4 votex of doom on a scout squad clearing them from obj, d scythes on another tank ended up having to d cannon his dreadnought because it was the only thing that ended up in range.

after that it was basically him charging me with tac squads and trying to snipe my knight end game was 26 to 10

Did you ask him why he was handicaping himself and not running gladius?

the FoC required a CAD then you could take another formation or detachment of any kind. he said something about wanting to run it but it messed with his strategy or something as well. he had some shenanigan where he could get back in his tanks at the end of the phase so that may have been It.



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next match is against tau, hes running

HQ:
Ethereal

Ethereal

Troops

x3 breachers loaded out

Crisis suits squad of seven, I believe plasma flamer loadout on all

2 hammer heads with submunitions
1 broadside I believe
1 riptide not sure of loadout I can chack his list later

Allied:

drone net
3-4 squads of 4 marker drones

I'll have to check scenario later aswell.

This list will give you more trouble. The knight is your key to victory here. The breachers are in devil fish right?

Yes they have devil fish and the broadside squad has 3 of them with high yield smart missiles and missile pods. and most of the crisis suits and the riptide have early warning which gives them interceptor, plus his drones have jink interceptor and a few other things.