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Which list is best? (see below for more details)
List 1 (bike star +35 tank bustas in gun wagons + extra bike boss)
List 2 (bike star + 20 tank bustas in gun wagons + 2X 3 meganobz in gun wagons)
List 3 (bike star + 18 tank bustas in gun wagons + 3X 3 meganobz in trucks)
List 4 (bike star + 8 tank bustas in truck + Bully Boyz, in 2X gun wagon and 1X truck

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Made in gb
Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver





Greetings!

I am going to a 1500 point tournament soon. It uses mostly maelstrom missions and kill points is a slight factor throughout.

My lsits are all based off the list used to win storm of silence here:

http://bloodofkittens.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Chuck-Arnett-Best-Overall-Storm-of-Silence-Orks-2015.pdf

List 1
Spoiler:
CAD
Warboss with bike, lucky stick, klaw
Zhadsnark Da' Rippa'

8 tank bustas, 2 bomb squigs
9 tank bustas

10 gretchin
15 bikes, nob, klaw, boss pole

2X gun wagons, rams

CAD
painboy, bike

9 tank bustas
9 tank bustas

10 gretchin
10 gretchin

2X gun wagons, rams



List 2
Spoiler:
CAD
Zhadsnark Da' Rippa'

3 meganobz, 3 flamers, boss pole
3 meganobz, 3 flamers, boss pole

10 gretchin, squig hound
15 bikes, nob, klaw, boss pole

gun wagon, ram
gun wagon, ram

CAD
painboy, bike

10 tank bustas, nob, boss pole, 3 bomb squigs
10 tank bustas, nob, boss pole,

10 gretchin, squig hound
10 gretchin, squig hound

2X gun wagons, rams



List 3
Spoiler:
CAD
Zhadsnark Da' Rippa'

3 meganobz, 2 flamers, boss pole, truck, ram
3 meganobz, 2 flamers, boss pole, truck, ram
3 meganobz, 2 flamers, boss pole, truck, ram

10 gretchin,
15 bikes, nob, klaw, boss pole

CAD
painboy, bike

8 tank bustas, 2 bomb squigs
8 tank bustas

10 gretchin
10 gretchin

2X gun wagons, rams



List 4
Spoiler:
CAD
Zhadsnark Da' Rippa'
painboy, bike

8 tank bustas, truck, ram

10 gretchin,
15 bikes, nob, klaw, boss pole

gun wagon, ram
gun wagon, ram

Formation:
Bully bopyz

5 meganobz, 2 flamers, truck, ram
2X 5 meganobz, 2 flamers


for how this list is generally played, go to the fronline gaming link here:
http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/05/40k-tactics-orks-winning-tournaments-say-waaagh.html

(I will be using the same tactics more or less, but obviously the gun wagons provide more protection to the tank bustas than the trukks, and by adding meganobz I have more offensive capabilities, there is an argument for each list, so which do you prefer and why?)



feel free to scrutinise!!



Automatically Appended Next Post:
please, someone poke a hole in my lists?

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Made in gb
Fully-charged Electropriest






Varying cities in the North

Honestly with the new FAQ I think that Tankbustas' lack of combat prowess really diminishes them, and therefore I picked List 3. Meganobz provide a very immediate threat to your enemy, and they don't need the extra protection of a gun wagon tbh.
   
Made in us
Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control






I would suggest using Bully Boyz.
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




150pts zhardsnark
75pts painboy on bike

179pts 8 warbikes upgrade one to nob w pk
54pts 3 warbikers
54pts 3 warbikers

188pts 11 tankbustas upgrade one to nob w Pk + bp and bomb squig

260pts Gunwagon x4 w ram
600pts Bullyboys

If not this list go for list 3 however mega nobs are not fearless or have the extra bonuses

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/06/11 04:27:58


 
   
Made in gb
Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver





I will add a 4th option with bully boyz in it, see what you think?


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 Sledgio wrote:
Honestly with the new FAQ I think that Tankbustas' lack of combat prowess really diminishes them, and therefore I picked List 3. Meganobz provide a very immediate threat to your enemy, and they don't need the extra protection of a gun wagon tbh.


thanks for the feeback, I agree that at the moment they are worse, but in my last 3 games with them they havent even needed to get into combat with anything as they could just shoot it and get the job done that way. I am also hoping that GW give back our melta bombs haha.

in terms of gun wagons, personally I have found the extra armour priceless, and especially for meganobz, it is VERY important, otherwise you will be foot slogging the whole game 6" a turn because they shot their paper car haha, and with the bully boyz, it becomes even more important because you dont want such a costly unit being left behind.


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 Spacewolverine wrote:
I would suggest using Bully Boyz.


noted!


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gungo wrote:
150pts zhardsnark
75pts painboy on bike

179pts 8 warbikes upgrade one to nob w pk
54pts 3 warbikers
54pts 3 warbikers

188pts 11 tankbustas upgrade one to nob w Pk + bp and bomb squig

260pts Gunwagon x4 w ram
600pts Bullyboys

If not this list go for list 3 however mega nobs are not fearless or have the extra bonuses


I actually really, really like this list THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I have made some changes to it and made it my list 4

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Made in us
Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon





Gungo's List is your best bet

'\' ~9000pts
'' ~1500
"" ~3000
"" ~2500
 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




List 4 voted for however you will likely be in the same position I am and building more mega nobs.
   
Made in gb
Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver





gungo wrote:
List 4 voted for however you will likely be in the same position I am and building more mega nobs.


Luckily I only have 3 more to get haha


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morfydd wrote:
Gungo's List is your best bet


Fair enough, but personally I like the idea of having more bikes in the star as padding, but you might be right, I will have to do some practice games to find out what suits my play style best

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Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




Your list is fine my only issue and your meta may differ trukks just don't last past turn 1 but gun wagons are slower. Which isn't a huge issue with mega nobs since I'm just going to flatout with gunwagons since mega nobs have absolutely no shooting potential. However it kinda sucks for tabkbustas that want to shoot but still get a charge turn 2.

Also the only reason I break off min squads of bikers is as objective grabbers and sometimes I find 15+ bike units big and unwieldly. However with skilled rider and painboy even assault grenades from zhardsnark that bike star bikes are just better. That's my fast assault unit with 2x klaws and painboy.

Your list 4 will do well play it and you can tweak it a few times as you go.
Also an easy and huge bump for this list to make it an 1850 list is a knight renegade warden for 375pts. That just gives your list a huge threat with a good range atk with another av13 model that takes away your opponents shooting at your wagons.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2016/06/12 17:55:44


 
   
Made in gb
Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver





My meta is probably a dead truck turn 1 haha, but im hoping there will be some terrain to help me out with cover.

Thank you for your advice i may find the bike squad too unwieldy as you say, in which case ill reduce it and see if i can have a list more similar to yours, Ill post on here after a practice game im having in a couple of games and let yall know how it went

   
Made in us
Yellin' Yoof





Hey just something that popped out, melta bombs were never taken away. The book says one grenade per unit per phase. Not sure how people took that to say any amount of grenades per unit per phase.

But I love tankbustas. They are usually the mvp of my games and with that S8 AP3 tank hunter, can really get the job done. Orks generally don't have a solid ranged heavy team so tankbustas usually fill that role (mek gunz who can have higher str are too random for current meta).
   
 
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