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I haven't played as marines since 6th ed and back the orbital bombardment always scattered the full 2d6'' (with an arrow) with an arrow but now my opponent said that with the new ed you could diminish it by either getting a hit or by having LoS. Is any of this made up bs?

Lord Kragan wrote:
I haven't played as marines since 6th ed and back the orbital bombardment always scattered the full 2d6'' (with an arrow) with an arrow but now my opponent said that with the new ed you could diminish it by either getting a hit or by having LoS. Is any of this made up bs?

Have you read your rulebook? It's pretty straightforward. Just look at the orbital bombardment's profile and then go look up the rules associated with its weapon type.

I don't have the seventh ed dex. If I had the rules at hand believe me I'd not ask this.


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But seriously I think that saying: haven't played since 6th ed and wondering wether it was the same or not now in 7th should be a dead giveaway.

Dakka isn't a replacement for the rulebook, and this is very clear in the book itself.

Oh, it's in the BRB? I thought it was something exclusive to the space marines dex which I'm not buying just for the sake of knowing wether or not I have been cheesed out. Thanks for saying it.

It's in the SM 'dex, they're just expressing how this forum isn't meant to be a replacement for owning the rules (i.e. the website can get in trouble for just copy-pasting rules, however discussing rules when both parties have access to them is ok) - which would be accurate if it were your army, but you're asking about an opponent, so you wouldn't necessarily have the 'dex.

An Orbital Strike does not reduce the distance scattered by the model's ballistic skill, even if they can see the target. However, a Hit is still a Hit. Whether this is the same as the 6th Ed I don't know.

Next time, just ask your opponent to show you the rule in his book, either at the time, or afterwards (if you don't want to slow the game down).

He "forgot" the dex that day and he said that if he had LoS now he could reduce it. Damn it.

Lord Kragan wrote:
He "forgot" the dex that day and he said that if he had LoS now he could reduce it. Damn it.

Whenever a friend forgets his Codex, our standard reaction is to challenge EVERYTHING and then offer to roll off to see who is correct. Teaches people to remember things really quickly.

BS4? Nope. Pretty sure Tactical Marines are BS1. I guess we can roll off to see who is right. Shame you don't have your 'dex on you.

 Kriswall wrote:

Lord Kragan wrote:
He "forgot" the dex that day and he said that if he had LoS now he could reduce it. Damn it.

Whenever a friend forgets his Codex, our standard reaction is to challenge EVERYTHING and then offer to roll off to see who is correct. Teaches people to remember things really quickly.

BS4? Nope. Pretty sure Tactical Marines are BS1. I guess we can roll off to see who is right. Shame you don't have your 'dex on you.

Okay as I lost the roll off my marines are BS1, but I'm sure that boltguns are S10. You don't agree? Better roll off on it. It's a shame I don't have my codex to check.
It could make for an interesting game but I don't think that is quite the right attitude to take to someone forgetting a codex, unless the "forget" quite often.

Nah, it happens rarely but as he bought recently the AoD he doesn't bring the codex and that day he forgot AoD. Still he can pull that stunt sometimes.

Now, this is something unrelated but I had a discussion with someone whom insists that when you fire inderectly with a barrage weapon, should you get a HIT! you'd still scatter the 2d6'' but you'd get to substract your BS. I said to him that if you got a hit! you didn't scatter AT ALL.
Still the dude is pigheaded as hell and I'd like to see the comments of others should I be wrong.

Lord Kragan wrote:
He "forgot" the dex that day and he said that if he had LoS now he could reduce it. Damn it.

Probably thinking of the Master of Ordinance from the Guard Codex - the Artillery Barrage he calls in always scatters, 2d6 on a hit and 3d6 on a miss, but if you have LoS you can reduce by his BS. That rule seems to get mixed up with the Orbital Bombardment rule quite often.

He does mean the orbital bombardment from the Chapter master. He referred to the barrage rule directly not the MoO. But dammit.

 roflmajog wrote:

 Kriswall wrote:

Lord Kragan wrote:
He "forgot" the dex that day and he said that if he had LoS now he could reduce it. Damn it.

Whenever a friend forgets his Codex, our standard reaction is to challenge EVERYTHING and then offer to roll off to see who is correct. Teaches people to remember things really quickly.

BS4? Nope. Pretty sure Tactical Marines are BS1. I guess we can roll off to see who is right. Shame you don't have your 'dex on you.

Okay as I lost the roll off my marines are BS1, but I'm sure that boltguns are S10. You don't agree? Better roll off on it. It's a shame I don't have my codex to check.
It could make for an interesting game but I don't think that is quite the right attitude to take to someone forgetting a codex, unless the "forget" quite often.

Well, god thing I remembered my brb, which includes the profile for boltguns.