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Tau, why hasn't the Imperium just dropped outright Exterminatus on their small holdings, I know there is the 13th BC and Tyranids, etc., distracting them.


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But...

They were going to Exterminatus primitive Tau but Warp Storms formed plot armour.

Knights. I would lose the knights.

Is it already confirmed who orchestrated the warp storm ?

Not as far as I know. Could just be a natural Warp Storm anyway.

 oldzoggy wrote:
Is it already confirmed who orchestrated the warp storm ?

The Marketing Team.

Eldar. Literally stupidest faction in the game. I don't mean their cheese or their visual style. Poor little guys IQ is too low to be of any interest to me. They basically just screw up everything for everyone because their little feelings tell them too. If any of them had even the smallest iota of intelligence they would realize they could stop sacrifcing one Imperial world for one Eldar life instwead to let the one Eldar to die, help the planet fight off whatever or use it as a distraction, and while you have that distraction go have some kids. Seriously. Any species too stupid to sustain its own kind is an evolutionary dead end.

Dark Eldar are cool though they can stay.

 Gamgee wrote:
Eldar. Literally stupidest faction in the game. I don't mean their cheese or their visual style. Poor little guys IQ is too low to be of any interest to me.

Dark Eldar are cool though they can stay.

How are Eldar okay but not Dark Eldar....

Dark Eldar are cool visually and they fess up to being raving dumb idiots that will try party their way out of this or until the end of their days. They also try and use science and technology to overcome their problems.

They are honest about being stupid. The Eldar are all high and mighty and act smart but I've never seen Eldar depicted do anything but act like extremely emotional idiots who should NEVER be allowed near a gun for their own safety.

pm713 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
Eldar. Literally stupidest faction in the game. I don't mean their cheese or their visual style. Poor little guys IQ is too low to be of any interest to me.

Dark Eldar are cool though they can stay.

How are Eldar okay but not Dark Eldar....

Probably due to his grudge against them not being nerfed as much as the Tau in the ITC rulings.

On topic, fluff-wise I would probably say Space Wolves personally. They've become a parody of themselves with all the wolf names and iconography not to mention that fluffwise they have some of the thickest plot armour, even for marines. From a gaming standpoint, knights probably shouldn't be a stand-alone faction.

 Gamgee wrote:
Dark Eldar are cool visually and they fess up to being raving dumb idiots that will try party their way out of this or until the end of their days. They also try and use science and technology to overcome their problems.

They are honest about being stupid. The Eldar are all high and mighty and act smart but I've never seen Eldar depicted do anything but act like extremely emotional idiots who should NEVER be allowed near a gun for their own safety.

Dark Eldar think they're the most amazing race ever and are better than everyone at everything. You have your factions reversed friend.

They do, but they admit it. They are honest in a way the regular Eldar are not. In a weird way. I can respect that. They clearly aren't the best race, but they.

Tyranids. Ugly models, bad rules, stupid fluff. The game would be better off without them.

Grey Knights
Tyranids
Imperial Knights
Militarum Tempestus
KDK

Dark Eldar could be folded into Eldar. They were just Eldar pirates until 3rd edition. Now they are cartoonishly evil space elves. I constantly expect to see them led by Skeletor, and if I were ever to bored enough to build a Dark Eldar force they would be.

Harlequins, another escapee from the Eldar codex. I don't really hate on them, but if they were to disappear again, I don't think anyone would really notice.

As a "faction", I think Knights. They really should just be a 0-1 add-on option to other factions, if you want an army of Knights, play Epic.

Setting that aside, I know the popular answer will likely be Tau, and there's some not terrible reasons for that, but I think they serve a place that has just been somewhat mishandled. The Tau really are a minor, completely insignificant player on the larger Galactic stage. What they are is an example of one of the innumerable small Xenos empires in the Galaxy the occasionally arises. They're big enough to attract *some* attention, but not really big enough to bother devoted any real effort to destroying, particularly when things like massive Ork Waaagh!'s and Tyranid invasions are about.

In that vein, if we're talking about a faction we'd like to see simply go away, or be destroyed (as opposed to simply being folded in with another faction), my vote is going to go with Space Wolves. Their fluff is quite simply unforgivably both poorly written and monstrously contradictory, their theme has been run off the deep end into absurdity, and quite frankly the army at this point really might as well just be Codex: TWC Deathstars, which isn't really something the game needs.

In order?

1: Space Wolves. For all the reasons Vakathi stated. And their models get more ridiculous by the year. Have the Thousand Sons wipe them out in a glorious revenge fest.

2: Tyranids. Chaos is supposed the ultimate threat not some extra-galactic locusts.

3: Grey Knights: Why are they their own army? They're a specialist force in a specialist force.

You can say the Codex:monobuild thing about most books nowadays though.

Which SW fluff is genuinely contradictory? As opposed to just being fluff that's changed over the settings 10'000 years.

Tyranids. Their fluff and their army is as dull as dishwater.

Orks, no redeeming values whatsoever.

Anyone who dares to touch a grav weapon.

All space marines why because I think the game revolves round them to much and if they are gone then just maybe other races might get a bit more love. Or at the very least just one book that's it and one range of models.

Just think with the amount of time spent on marines there could be an entire sisters of battle army plus new sculpts for alot of other side so I so down with the marines

It's "buy the farm", not "bite the farm".

The term dates back to the Roman Legions, where a soldiers retirement lan was live long enough to muster out and use their earnings to purchase farm land on the edge of the empire. However, as most legionaires did not survive long enough to retire, saying that a fallen comrade "bought the farm" became a euphemism for dying early.

Just saying.

SJ

I've never liked the idea of killing factions and have always been curious why other people seem so fascinated with killing factions To me, it's almost always a bad thing.

That said, if I were to kill a 40k faction, it'd probably be Imperial Knights, not because they aren't cool and undeserving of a place in the fluff, but rather because they are an Epic 40k faction more than a 28mm 40k faction.

That said, if I had my way, superheavies would have heavy restrictions in 28mm games in general.

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
It's "buy the farm", not "bite the farm".

I was wondering when someone would point that out

Though your etymology sounds nice, I don't think there's any basis to believe the phrase goes back to Roman times. I think it only goes back to the times of the World Wars at best.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-buy1.htm

While I'm in the boat of Tyranids being dull and boring and SW being very ridiculous, I'd rather not have armies terminated, but re-worked or joined up to their cousins (SW, Harlequins). We don't need so many codexes

I'll give a pass to the original crew.

Keep the Eldar, Orks, Space Marines, Imperial Guard, Chaos and Bugs.

Necrons and Dark Eldar add almost nothing to the universe or story line (outside of lackluster ret-conning to make them somewhat important to the story).

The Tau at least look cool, and provide a vastly different game-style.

We can kill of the Space Wolves since they keep getting sillier and more ridiculous each year (they've gone from Vikings to Werewolves...and not in a cool way).

As a whole, the game could really use a reduction in "armies" and reduction in codices - combine all the armies back into what they should be and allow some interesting detachments or what not. No reason for Harlequins to be their own book. Combine all the Imperial Agents into one book (Sisters, Inquisition, Grey Knights, etc. all together).

I would say, Grey knights, sisters, and inquisition. My reasoning behind it would be for them to all be rolled into a single large inquisition codex.

But to just wipe out? Tau.
Git yer anime samurai fish goats outta my mah grimdark, ya hear me?! GIT!
*waves cane angrily at the battle suits on his lawn*

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I've never liked the idea of killing factions and have always been curious why other people seem so fascinated with killing factions

Because they're selfish donkey-caves. They don't like it, so no one else should, either.

Or it could be that they just dont believe they fit the narrative, tone, or overarching style of the background the universe, or within the context of a force that really suits 28mm play?

I mean, there's usuaslly something a little deeper than just "those people are jerks".

 Sidstyler wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I've never liked the idea of killing factions and have always been curious why other people seem so fascinated with killing factions

Because they're selfish donkey-caves. They don't like it, so no one else should, either.

pretty much this. that said my answer's gonna be a bit differant.

Space Wolves and Grey Knights. not because I dislike them (one of my armies to Grey Knights) but because they're "single group armies" and thus the anthesis of what a 40k army's fluff SHOULD be. the TLDR version is that, with most 40k armies there is no wrong way to paint it. Pink and white Space Marines? Absolutely! Purple and Yellow Imperial Guard? tasteless but totally fine. chaos is well chaos, pink horror and blue horrors should be their respective colours sure, but if someone painted up an army of Bronze Bloodletters with weapons painted to look aflame I'd praise them for how cool that is. Grey Knights and Space Wolves however are differant. there is a right way and a wrong way to paint them. and I think I'd rather see those factions altered to remove that, even if it meant a major "realms shaking event" occuring.

I'd say drop one of the marine factions, we got plenty of them and honestly they are not that different to justify 5 freaking codcies (plus supplements)

Blood angels, Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Grey Knights-they can all be dropped (or at least turned into black crusader level with own CT and a few special units), and the game world would hardly change.

Focus on space wolves and grey knights-these are singular chapters of about 1000 marines each, without any real successors or spin-offs like the other marines. how can you justify something that SMALL to have its own codex, while either races and grand factions have been reduced to a single unit (or not at all)