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Split fire enables a single model in a unit to fire at a different target.
If a unit shot during the shooting phase they can only charge the unit they shot at. Technically this unit has shot at two units, does this mean either unit can be legally charged without resorting to a disordered charge?

Yes, that is mostly the purpose of stubbers on IK's and the like.
Shoot your Thermal Cannon at a tank, stubber those bikes over there, then stomp them into the ground.

Thanks for the reply.
I'm actually going to be using Long Fangs as something between Grey Hunters and Wolf Guard, to go through tar-pits.

 Thairne wrote:
Yes, that is mostly the purpose of stubbers on IK's and the like.
Shoot your Thermal Cannon at a tank, stubber those bikes over there, then stomp them into the ground.

Umm... Super-Heavies do not have Split Fire, so really not a good reference for it. Their rule is completely different.

Split Fire says the model shoots at a different target. A model is not the unit. The unit is not the one targeting the shot. Since the unit is not targeting the shot, it is not a viable target for a Charge, especially when there is another shooting target has already been determined to be the unit's target.

Dakka wolf: your issue is in the verbiage.

Charge restrictions state that if a unit shoots, you can only charged what the unit targeted.

Split fire(and target locks; in fact everything other than super heavy and gmc) specifically states that the model firing at a different unit is doing so outside of his unit's target.

The unit only targets 1 unit, it is just a model(or models, or 1 weapon) that shoots at something else.

With split fire you can only charge your unit's target; never the split-fire model's target.

So it's still a dud.
Bummer.
That charge what you shoot rule really stinks.


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Actually, that might still leave a bit of wiggle room.
Give the split firing model a flamer to open the ranks & the rest have the option of finishing that unit or shooting the next unit and charging them. Would anything aside from not making a big enough hole stop that?

 Dakka Wolf wrote:
So it's still a dud.
Bummer.
That charge what you shoot rule really stinks.


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Actually, that might still leave a bit of wiggle room.
Give the split firing model a flamer to open the ranks & the rest have the option of finishing that unit or shooting the next unit and charging them. Would anything aside from not making a big enough hole stop that?

You need to declare the Unit's target before you fire any weapons.

You do not get "the option of finishing that unit or shooting the next unit"

 Dakka Wolf wrote:
Actually, that might still leave a bit of wiggle room.
Give the split firing model a flamer to open the ranks & the rest have the option of finishing that unit or shooting the next unit and charging them. Would anything aside from not making a big enough hole stop that?

A unit using Split Fire cannot target the same unit as the model who Split Fired.

So at the end of the day Spit Fire is worth spit in a flood.

 Dakka Wolf wrote:
So at the end of the day Spit Fire is worth spit in a flood.

It depends on who you are using it with. If you are using it with a Tactical Marine Squad with a Heavy AT Weapon like a Multimelta or Lascannon, that AT Weapon can be used against a proper Vehicle without overkilling an Infantry Target.

On a Necron Warrior Squad, only if a Cryptek or Lord/Overlord is in the unit.

A Tau Fire Warrior Squad is a different story (I know, Target Lock, not Split Fire, but it's similar enough), even though all the Fire Warriors usually have the same Weapon, the team leader can have a Markerlight which the unit cannot use, but another can.

Also remember, Split Fire is voluntary, you do not have to use it if you do not want to.

Just hypothetically speaking here, but what if a 2 man squad of crisis suits, both armed with Target Locks, were to shoot 2 separate units. Could they choose? Which is counted as the unit?

 Kommisar Kyn wrote:
Just hypothetically speaking here, but what if a 2 man squad of crisis suits, both armed with Target Locks, were to shoot 2 separate units. Could they choose? Which is counted as the unit?

They would have to pick a target for the firing unit to target as normal, then the models with target locks can choose other units to shoot at.

That is where you get into an issue that caused a 6 page arguement between myself and Christoph(some hyperbole used).

No matter what though; the unit must declare a target.

So either 1 crisis suit is not using its target lock or the unit has targeted a third unit that it has not shot at(triggering the argument).