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In the fluff, how is the relationship between the Inquisition and the Adeptus Mechanicus? I'm curious for some fluff I want to write about them.

This is an extremely broad question as neither of those are centralized organizations. You have dozens of factions within each of those that will all have different views. Some Inquisitors are unwilling to trust any Adeptus Mechanicus member, others understand the divide between puritan and radical exists within the AdMech as it does in the Inquisition. Some Magos will resent any and all involvement of the Inquisition whereas others rely on Inquisitorial sanction to keep themselves safe. In addition, the Ordo Machinum is made up of those Inquisitors who feel it is of the utmost importance that the AdMech does not accidentally introduce heretical or xenos technology to the greater Imperium, such as what happened with the majority of the current classifications of chaos ships.

IIRC, Eisenhorn had a bestie Mechanicum Priest who made him his power weapon and gave a ride inside tunneling machine?

I was wondering about Ordo Malleus and Adeptus Mechanicum, sorry.

 HCMistborn wrote:
I was wondering about Ordo Malleus and Adeptus Mechanicum, sorry.

Original point still stands. Even the Ordos are not centralized. They're just a descriptor of where a particular inquisitor's interests lie.

Okay, I just wanted to make sure it wasn't some big taboo that I had skipped over somehow for the AdMech and the Daemonhunters to work together.

The Adeptus Mechanicus and Ordo Xenos working together on joint project is one of the central plot points of the the later part of the Ciaphas Cain series. If you haven't already I would highly recommend you give that series a read, it's excellent!

Also, there are Inquisitors who specialise in "keeping an eye on" the Tech-priests and their political structure; I think it's the Ordo Machinum?

The Daemonhunters will be very, very careful about working with anyone external. It'll depend on what, precisely, they're asking them to do. That said, someone has to train the Grey Knights' techmarines and maintain the ships of the Inquisition's fleet.

Standard practice is to oath out duties to people 'loaned to' or 'seconded by' the Inquisition (depending on the Influence and importance of the people they're stealing them from!), and when dealing with the daemonic itself, the Ordo Malleus has a habit of requiring either mindscrubbing (probably easier with a Mechanicus individual with so much of their memory being in cogitator form) or after-the-fact execution, again depending on their importance, future usefulness, and perceived spiritual resilliance.

Beast arises series: they do have official friendly contact but distrust each other, spy at each other and are not above killing opposed agents who are overstepping some boundaries.






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The treaty of Mars is also something to consider


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There is a book in the dark heresy RPG series concerning admech I haven't read it but it might be interesting.

There's one Forgeworld that has a continual issue with Deathwatch Kill Teams conducting running battles on its surface with various radical Tech Priests, that's the Adeptus Mechanicus codex.

Wouldn't however, if push came to shove it would be the Inquisitors to be shoved. The AM doesn't brook tresspass well and has the power (as the maker of everything and access to their own fleets and armies) to punish the Inquisition severely.

 Frazzled wrote:
Wouldn't however, if push came to shove it would be the Inquisitors to be shoved. The AM doesn't brook tresspass well and has the power (as the maker of everything and access to their own fleets and armies) to punish the Inquisition severely.

it'd never go that far because if it did you likely would have a schism between the IoM and the admech. something which would destroy both sides. in the case of an escalating conflict like this cooler heads, on both sides, would ensure it was de-escalated. that said yeah an Inqusitor is gonna need to play ball with the admech, but you don't get to be an inqusitor unless you know how to handle the Myrid of factions within the IoM.

As the two single most powerful Organisations in the Imperium, its Unstoppable Force meets immovable object. The Inq has the power to declare the entire Mechanicum traitors, and there are many Space Marine chapters in particular who would happily stomp Mars flat on such a declaration.

But Mars are vital to the Imperium, making everything and having their own forces, with access to devastating technology, plus Titan Legions would back them.

The Martians can't piss off the Inquisition, who would have them ousted and replaced with obediant techpriests, but the Inqusition can't outright fight them without destroying everything in the Imperium.

 Deadshot wrote:
As the two single most powerful Organisations in the Imperium, its Unstoppable Force meets immovable object. The Inq has the power to declare the entire Mechanicum traitors, and there are many Space Marine chapters in particular who would happily stomp Mars flat on such a declaration.

But Mars are vital to the Imperium, making everything and having their own forces, with access to devastating technology, plus Titan Legions would back them.

The Martians can't piss off the Inquisition, who would have them ousted and replaced with obediant techpriests, but the Inqusition can't outright fight them without destroying everything in the Imperium.

However AM worlds (remember its not just Mars) are the most advnaced, with the most advanced forces.
Also remember, how many IM ships are going anywhere if their admechs decide to throw a monkey wrench into the system. Same for the marines.
The AM is the most powerful faction in the Imperium, if it wants to be.

Now of course the AM is not monolithic, just like no other faction of the Imperium is monolithic. Is there fluff of the AM policing their own?

Yes. One of the Grey Knight novels starts with a tech priest investigating a planet for tech heresy.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
As the two single most powerful Organisations in the Imperium, its Unstoppable Force meets immovable object. The Inq has the power to declare the entire Mechanicum traitors, and there are many Space Marine chapters in particular who would happily stomp Mars flat on such a declaration.

But Mars are vital to the Imperium, making everything and having their own forces, with access to devastating technology, plus Titan Legions would back them.

The Martians can't piss off the Inquisition, who would have them ousted and replaced with obediant techpriests, but the Inqusition can't outright fight them without destroying everything in the Imperium.

However AM worlds (remember its not just Mars) are the most advnaced, with the most advanced forces.
Also remember, how many IM ships are going anywhere if their admechs decide to throw a monkey wrench into the system. Same for the marines.
The AM is the most powerful faction in the Imperium, if it wants to be.

Now of course the AM is not monolithic, just like no other faction of the Imperium is monolithic. Is there fluff of the AM policing their own?

Yes, Magi will normally take action against any of their number who falls out of line. There are plenty of references to Magi being punished by the AdMech for their crimes (usually by being converted into servitors).

And yes, it is never going to come to a war between AdMech or Inquisition. First of all, the Inquisition can never be at war with anyone, because "the Inquisition" doesn't actually exist. They are not an organisation, they are a collective of individual Inquisitors. The AdMech meanwhile is so fractious that even if the FabGen would declare war upon all Inquisitors there would likely be plenty of Forgeworlds rebelling against that. So an AdMech-Inquisition war would really be an individual Magos (or a certain faction of Magi) vs an individual Inquisitor (or a certain faction of Inquisitors).
As a whole, the AdMech is by far the most powerful group in the Imperium though, thanks to their monopoly on technological knowledge The Inquisition would not be able to do much against them, seeing as it would mean they'd be without working spaceships or weapons. And even without that advantage, Mars still directly controls huge armies and all of Humanity's most powerful weapons, including many miracles from the Dark Age of Technology.