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I am ridiculously excited about this one. I really like Kings of War and even enjoyed a game of Age of Sigmar once, but no one around here plays it. This game seems like a nice mid point between the two - the added complexity and tactics with the weird looking action wheel (yes, kinda odd looking, but I'll get used to it) that dictates when you go and what happens when you do - that just sounds super cool.

I'll be in for two core sets, and probably two of each expansion - there's supposed to be unit attachments (musicians, banner-bearers), wizards, and heroes (mounted and on foot) available too.

kenofyork wrote:
I have purchased several FFG board games over the years and found them for the most part utterly dreadful. Conan was my favorite IP and I could not muster the enthusiasm to even play it after ready the rules. Twilight Imperium was set up once and a friend and I tried to slog through the myriad of confusing and mostly pointless phases and gave up. Descent had dice mechanics that were needlessly confusing and I never figured out. I have Tanhauser- all I can say is what? And finally my ultimate disappointment was Tide of Iron. As a long time Squad Leader player I was so hyped about this and it plays horribly. Nothing at all like Squad Leader, with no tactics other than game rules. I also played the role play game Death Watch and those rules are not well tested. We soon had stacked abilities that broke the system.

Ouch, I feel for you man, but you've listed off a litany of their worst games! Conan, TI, Tannhauser, Tide of Iron... (I liked Descent, but it took too long and now never hits the table) I can see why you're not a fan - but they do have some good games in their catalog! Find someone who has Eldritch Horror, or give Armada (or X Wing) a try. They're fun!

Aren't the Descent minis slightly smaller than 28mm? Or am I misremembering this?

I have Battlelore 2.0, and those are smaller. Maybe I'm thinking of that game...?

Some info about how fightin' works:
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/1/16/battle-is-joined/

And the command tool (the wheels thingie):
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/1/3/take-command-2/

The more I learn, the cooler this sounds. It might dethrone Kings of War for me! (though that one is fun too)

Huh.

They seemed to notice when the internet blew up over their prices (well, our little corner of the internet)

They changed the prices. They're now listed as $25

Thanks FFG!

 Lance845 wrote:
I am interested in trying the game. FFG has tight rules that function well on the table and often make for enjoyable playing experience.

The issue I have is the lack of forces. Only 2 armys to start and not a lot to build on them. What this needs is a starter pack that includes dice and movement/measurement pieces and start collecting boxes for each army. If I am going to play undead I don't want the other guys. And if I was going to sell off the other guys I imagine the other guy would need all those materials to play.

Yes, they've gone for the 2-player starter set. I reckon that won't work for everyone. It probably shouldn't be too much trouble to split a starter pack with someone, or put up the faction you don't want on ebay.

They've already announced two more armies (elves and demon guys), but we don't yet know how those will be packaged and sold. I wonder if they might go for the one player starter set?

 AduroT wrote:
Is this one doing the thing where you need to buy other factions' models to get the upgrade cards for your own?

They have stated that they won't do this. I think that FFG got the message that folks didn't like buying Empire units to upgrade your Rebel ships. That was a ridiculous model

Mutter wrote:

jonboyjon1990 wrote:

I think the FFG CEO himself said in the GenCon Keynote speech, that this is a game where the rules come first and miniatures come second.

Almost all the people I know bought the X-Wing stuff mainly for the miniatures, rules were only a distant second.
This will not happen with Runewars.

Wow, I've passively followed this game for years, and know some friends who have it. I've tried it and it's OK. But this is the very first time I've heard someone say folks bought the game "just for the models"

What do you do with the models? Surely this is a tiny minority of folks who maybe just want an X Wing on their desk, or handing from their ceiling? That folks would buy the models but never try the game honestly never occurred to me!

Isn't the basic table size 3' wide? So for most folks (with a 4' wide playing space) you can put the dials and cards and such at the edge of the table, roughly lined up with the units they refer to. I think these dials sound nifty.

Yup, another reader here to chime in and agree: the minis are really nice. In particular, they seem designed for the painter in mind. Most have really nice details that are easy to pick out with a brush, and have really open stances, so there are no hidden, hard to reach spots (e.g., a shield tucked tight against a chest is probably more realistic, but much harder to paint)

Haven't played yet, but they're super fun to paint