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Hi all played 40k for a long time and now with point system I want take a leap and try aos. I am not sure what to try in general I like specialist units, cavalry multiple wounds unit(bigger the better). What do you guys recommend?

All of the main factions (Death, Chaos, Order and Destruction) got plenty of that.

Seraphon might be a good fit, lots of dinosaurs. They got their Saurus Knights, Stegadons, Bastiladons, Caronsaurs and so on.

Flesh-Eater Court do have Varghulfs, Crypt Horrors, Terrorgheist that you can put leaders on. Crypt Flayers that are flying and so on.

Now, you can also do a Warherd which is basically a small model count monster-army. Bullgors as Battleline, Doombull as leader and Cygor and Ghorgon as Behemots.

Finding a faction with lots of multiple wound monsters wont be hard in AoS!

Sounds like beast claw raiders might be the best thing for you specialist cavalry army

Sounds like Beastclaw is what you may like. Not sure how those Mastodons are for Calvery but I think they are multi wound. When you say calvery do you want lots of horses or few beat mounted animals?

Sadly since you want points, it's hard to say what you will want. Are you min maxing? So I say don't worry about points, but just get what looks cool for you. What appeals to you right now without worrying about points or what is good/no good. Start from there, then ask if they are viable to your play style.

All the rules and data scrolls are free on the GW site. Get the AoS app, and download everything you can that you don't have to pay for. While the rules is only 4 pages (really only 2 page of rules) all the rules are in the war scrolls that make AoS an in-depth game.

Read them and see how they will suit your play style.


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Forgot to say also look at the "Get Started" sets. See what appeals to you if you don't want to spend $250 (depending on where you live and buy) for the Icewind Assault (or what ever it's called, I keep forgetting.) There are great $100 boxes and if you like Stormcast Eternals you can get them for $20 or $40 box sets now if you don't want the $150 starter box set.

Maybe Morghast heavy Mannfred Death Army?

Small model count but everything is fast and hits hard with some summoning. Hexwraiths for flanking or extra attacks.

Stormcasts are always good and easy enough to come by. Probably the cheapest way to get into AOS for sure.

Some good tips Thanks Guys! The new ogres look awesome I also like the new iron jaw, how are they game play wise?
Dont you need to have skeletons as a minimum troop choice before taking Awesome beasts?!

Regarding the Skeletons, in Matched Play, if you limit yourself to models only from the Deathlords faction, then you don't need any skeletons. Morghast Archai and Harbingers are your minimum troop choice, and you won't have many models.

The problem for low model-count armies in some of the Matched Play scenarios, however, is that you'll have trouble keeping objectives and gaining victory points. Most likely, you'll have to table your opponent before turn five to win, which I doubt will be much fun for anyone after a few games.

Does he have to use skeletons if he takes Hexwraiths? I thought they were under Nighthaunts.

I've been tinkering with this list myself which is why I'm curious.

(Has a quick look)

Hexwraiths are indeed under Nighthaunts but unfortunately, the Nighthaunt faction has no battleline units of its own, so yes, skeletons are required. Well, either skeletons or zombies in any case, since these are the only two universal battleline units for the death allegiance.

This is only in Matched Play, of course. But since we've been negotiating our AoS games for so long, you could try asking your opponent if they'll let you do it.

100 skeletons coming up!

What are battle lines?(a)

Battleline are what they mean. They're are your basic rank-and-file units, Troops units if you will.

Ok where can I find the full list of requirements for a legal list?

Death can do quite a elite army monstrous wise you have
Nagash the mortarchs lord/ghoul king on zombie dragon
Ghoul king on ghiest
Terrirghuesr
Zombie dragon
The mournghul from FW
Monstrous infantry wise you have
Varghiests
Crypt ghouls
Crypt flayers
Both variants of Morghasts

Ok, thanks I looked after models not sure if I like undead I love some and hate some.

I looked at all the models and I think I want to take destruction and do an ogres and iron jaw list. Best looking models now hope they have OK rules xd

 Funbug No.1 wrote:
(Has a quick look)

Hexwraiths are indeed under Nighthaunts but unfortunately, the Nighthaunt faction has no battleline units of its own, so yes, skeletons are required. Well, either skeletons or zombies in any case, since these are the only two universal battleline units for the death allegiance.

This is only in Matched Play, of course. But since we've been negotiating our AoS games for so long, you could try asking your opponent if they'll let you do it.

If you go pure nighthaunt spirit hosts are battle line

(Has another, more careful look)

Quite right - can't believe I missed that!

arthorn wrote:
Ok, thanks I looked after models not sure if I like undead I love some and hate some.

I looked at all the models and I think I want to take destruction and do an ogres and iron jaw list. Best looking models now hope they have OK rules xd

Beastclaw and Ironjawz play well enough. I have played a couple of proxy games with my friend to see if it's worth it for him to invest on the thundertusks to field besides his mawcrusha. They deal a lot of mortal wounds, fairly hard to displace when taking objectives, but the low model count makes it hard to take objectives, too. I think he's buying at least two thundertusks.

Ironjaws and Beastriders look like they'll compliment each other well. You just need to decide who's going to be going in first (Ironjawz) and who's going to sweep up whatever is leftover. A normal Beastclaw Raider group I'd look for a greater melee focus - but Ironjawz are just so damn FAST in matched play with their Allegiance ability.

Even normally slow looking Brutes may reach the battle before your Raiders get stuck in, so you might be better taking a stronger ranged presence with your Raiders.

The Beastclaw battletome as a battalion in it for Mournfangs and Gore-Gruntas. Pretty good, too.

If you're like me, you probably wanted to know exactly what to buy, which units, and how you were going to run them -points wise.

So since you want to do matched play (playing with points and standardized rules) we will recommend you get the General's Handbook.
It's only like $25 and it informs you how the different allegiances (order/death/destruction/chaos) function, their bonuses, their battle line requirements etc.

Here's an example.

Playing at 2000 points, you need 3 separate battleline units. (Basically troop tax via 40K CAD)

So using the scrollbuilder website as a rough attempt, I can make this:
2000- Destruction
http://bit.ly/2c8dU06

Leaders
Megaboss on Maw-Krusha (520)
- General
- Trait: Bellowing Tyrant
- Artefact: Battle Brew
Frostlord on Thundertusk (420)

Units
Orruk Gore Gruntas x 3 (180) Ironjawz - Ironjawz Battleline
Mournfang Pack x 2 (200) Ironjawz - Beastclaw Raiders - Beastclaw Raiders Battleline
Orruks x 10 (100) Greenskinz - Battleline
Ogors x 3 (120) Gutbusters - Battleline
Ogors x 3 (120) Gutbusters - Battleline

Behemoths
Thundertusk Beastriders (320) Beastclaw Raiders - Behemoth - Beastclaw Raiders Battleline

Total: 1980/2000

So without going into infinite depth...
Some factions have a bonus if you take 100% of your units from that faction/subfaction,
Example=Death Allegiance w/Deathlords faction.
Usually you need to take Death's battle line units (Skeletons/Zombies/Crypt Ghouls), however you gain the bonus that if you have 100% units with the Deathlords keyword, you can use Morghasts as your battleline instead/in addittion to.

Ironjawz/Beastclaw Raiders don't actually have any generic battleline units, only faction specific.
So TL;DR if you want to combine them, expect to field some destruction generic battleline units such as Orruks or Ogors.
(On Scrollbuilder, the one's in red are the 100% faction bonus I mentioned).
All of this is in General's Handbook btw).