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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 12:09:00
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-37176313
It has the production values of a Hollywood blockbuster and the heightened emotion of a Bollywood musical, but the message couldn't be more anti-American.
An extraordinary eight-minute music video/revenge fantasy called "We are standing to last drop of blood" has been regularly shown on on Iran's national TV this month, setting social media buzzing.
The film shows patriotic youths magically destroying an American invasion fleet which has targeted an idyllic Iranian seaside town and its peaceful nuclear power plant. When the civilians come under unprovoked attack the Iranian heroes unite to use the power of their national flag to create a tsunami that destroys the US ships and aircraft. It ends with the idyllic seaside town and peaceful nuclear power plant returned to tranquillity. Subtle it is not.
The video is partially inspired by the events of July 1988, when Iran Air Flight 655 was shot down by the American warship, the USS Vincennes, after apparently being mistaken for a jet fighter. All 290 people onboard the passenger plane were killed.
It is an event which has a particular emotional significance to many Iranians. And some, including conservative Iranian voices, have suggested that the overblown imagery in the new video trivialises the tragedy of the event.
The Javan newspaper, which is close to Iran's Revolutionary Guards, published an article lashing what it described as a flop. "Hollywood-style budget, Bollywood-style quality", read the headline. "It seems that the producers of the clip watch too many Hindi movies," the author concluded.
The video starts with a little girl on board the aircraft playing with her doll as the captain welcomes passengers onboard.
Simultaneously, the people on the beach seems to be going about their own business; children playing, a couple picnicking, a cafe owner bringing tea to customers.
Then, as one of the children fetches the ball from the sea, a dark shadow looms over him.
He looks up to see a missile hitting the plane in the dreary sky. At the sight of American warships in the distance, he drops the ball and runs. There's confusion.
It is then that the singer, an ordinary man among the crowd, steps up.
"Oh you warship, your loud roar does not scare me", the singer chides, as he shakes his finger at the invaders.
Fighter jets attack the shore as he stands still watching in astonishment. Then he runs back quickly, grabs the flying Iranian flag. Other men grab more flags and join in line. They all move forward towards the enemy.
The warships target them and shoot.
"If you dare passing me by, I will break your legs", the singer warbles The men emerge from the dusty of an explosion, crying out loud, running towards the ships. They plant their flags into the surf with such force that it creates a tsunami that swallows up the entire invading fleet, including the Vincennes, and several US aircraft.
The ships flip over and a burning US flag floats on the sea.
The clip, produced by Sureh Film Club, is affiliated to the state-owned Islamic Propagation Organisation, whose chairman is appointed by Iran's supreme leader.
The Sobh-e No newspaper reported that the budget for the video was 1.2bn tomans, about $385,000. A figure disputed by the head of the film club, who said he would reveal the true cost at a later date. The newspaper report said a team of 150 people worked on the project. The production is said to have taken two years to complete.
Many Iranians on social media were critical. One Twitter user wrote: "Why spend public money to produce such low-quality products?"
Another mockingly noted: "In the video, the Iranians shout and the American warships capsize! Therefore it would be better if the military budget is spent on amplifiers and megaphones."
However, some were generally supportive, even if the praise was qualified: "Although they are misusing nationalistic sentiment, the hoisting of the flag in front of the Americans is significant."
That'll learn you eh America !?
One imagines the sfy-fy channel will rush out at least 4 sequels any day now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 12:33:27
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I sense a new Sharknado movie in response: IraniTzunami vs. Sharknado! "Whoever loses, we win!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 12:34:04
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Martial Arts Fiday
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Nice to see them putting our ransom cash to good use!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 12:37:50
Subject: Re:If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Iranian seaside town and its peaceful nuclear power plant
So it is a fantasy video?
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 12:50:44
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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I can't wait for this to be used as another example of "they want to destroy our way of life!"
Other than that, are we really confused whenever our (US) country is depicted as a bad guy?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 12:55:47
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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Indicative that this is in OT rather Geek Media.
It s no different from when Ironman goes to the middle east and blow up lots of arabs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 12:56:07
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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BrotherGecko wrote:I can't wait for this to be used as another example of "they want to destroy our way of life!"
Other than that, are we really confused whenever our (US) country is depicted as a bad guy?
The US as bad guys? Cool, but make sure we get cool villain mustaches we can twirl as we laugh maniacly.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 13:03:48
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Orlanth wrote:It s no different from when Ironman goes to the middle east and blow up lots of arabs.
And just like in Iron Man they used a fictional country as well as protecting and helping Americans under attack by terrorists.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 15:33:35
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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BrotherGecko wrote:I can't wait for this to be used as another example of "they want to destroy our way of life!"
Other than that, are we really confused whenever our (US) country is depicted as a bad guy?
Eh, 50/50? A lot of people are opposed to U.S. soldiers being stationed in the Middle East, so it is frustrating to see anti-American sentiments when it's the government and not the people dictating where/how our military is used.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 15:42:03
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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Frazzled wrote: BrotherGecko wrote:I can't wait for this to be used as another example of "they want to destroy our way of life!"
Other than that, are we really confused whenever our (US) country is depicted as a bad guy?
The US as bad guys? Cool, but make sure we get cool villain mustaches we can twirl as we laugh maniacly.
When was the last time we had a president with any facial hair? I think we're just going to have to settle for babies stapled to foreheads, the Alpha Legion way.
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"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 16:31:18
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Cool movie. But they should just ask Russia for some anti-ship missiles instead. Works better than flags.
Also, an idyllic Iranian seaside town? With a nuclear power plant?
Nuclear power plants don't really strike me as idyllic, to be honest.
But why is this in OT? To discuss about how cool anti-american propaganda is? Now that is a discussion I'd love to take part in. Down with the Great Satan!
In all seriousness, as far as propaganda goes, this one is far from being subtle. Propaganda works best when it is both subtle and omnipresent, so that people no longer realise it is propaganda in the first place. The US and Russia are very good at that kind of propaganda. Iran not so much it seems.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 16:37:21
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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Yeah, it's a bit heavy handed and direct, it'll appeal to the echo-chamber crowd and thats about it.
Interesting to see however
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 16:45:51
Subject: Re:If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Longtime Dakkanaut
On a surly Warboar, leading the Waaagh!
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I laughed, I cried, it was better than 'Cats'!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 16:48:50
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Yeah, and it still had a better love story than Twilight too!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 16:59:00
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Iran has wizards now? We are boned.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 17:08:53
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Fixture of Dakka
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I can't wait for the sequel: Shia Jihad Too: Electric Boogaloo!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 17:22:28
Subject: Re:If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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I had no idea their flags were so powerful.
One assumes they think all flags are like this hence the videos of them burning so many of them -- they think it's removing coastal defences.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king, |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 18:46:40
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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Because it isn't miniature game, it is light news, and we'll all get a kick out of it the same as if it were any silly anti-<insert country here> bit of propaganda. Not everything in the OT is super serious.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 18:58:46
Subject: Re:If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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reds8n wrote: I had no idea their flags were so powerful.
One assumes they think all flags are like this hence the videos of them burning so many of them -- they think it's removing coastal defences.
This feels like magic. Didn't Saudi Arabia just execute some people for wizadry. There could be some unintended consequences here.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 19:07:13
Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Subject: If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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MN (Currently in WY)
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I have a feeling it is going to be number 1 with a bullet!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/25 21:34:47
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
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That's almost north Korean.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/26 03:27:24
Subject: Re:If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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It remains a constant of the universe that any government, anywhere, no matter if it is a democracy, dictatorship, theocracy or whatever, they absolutely cannot make videos for gak.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/26 09:39:25
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sebster wrote:It remains a constant of the universe that any government, anywhere, no matter if it is a democracy, dictatorship, theocracy or whatever, they absolutely cannot make videos for gak.
Depends on how you define a government making a video. "Triumph des Willens" is sort of the type example of propaganda.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/29 19:12:40
Subject: Re:If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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AlmightyWalrus wrote: sebster wrote:It remains a constant of the universe that any government, anywhere, no matter if it is a democracy, dictatorship, theocracy or whatever, they absolutely cannot make videos for gak.
Depends on how you define a government making a video. "Triumph des Willens" is sort of the type example of propaganda.
Battleship Potemkin? Not sure whether it counts as a government film though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/29 19:36:24
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They can make all the videos they want.Welcome to free speech you heathens. However just don't step up, I really want to retire. Those stop losses sucked during the Iraq war, and I really don't want to get caught up in it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/30 03:37:15
Subject: Re:If Hollywood made an Iranian anti-US revenge fantasy
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AlmightyWalrus wrote:Depends on how you define a government making a video. "Triumph des Willens" is sort of the type example of propaganda.
That's actually a classic example. The film is lauded for its technical achievements and rightly so, but it is also unbelievably boring to watch. If you stop analysing the imagery and just watch the film you end up watching the the epic story of a party meeting.
The film didn't even do that well in Germany. Even with all the social pressure of wanting to be seen to be a good nazi it couldn't crack the top 10 for movies that year in Germany.
Imagine if Riefenstahl was given the freedom to make a fascist movie that had an actual plot and stuff like that. But this film was being made under the direction of the new government, and that resulted in the gripping story of party officials giving speeches.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/30 04:57:15
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sebster wrote:It remains a constant of the universe that any government, anywhere, no matter if it is a democracy, dictatorship, theocracy or whatever, they absolutely cannot make videos for gak.
We make pretty damn good ones, though JOPA's not really an official government agency I suppose. A necessary one all the same.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/08/31 17:07:44
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reds8n wrote: I had no idea their flags were so powerful.
One assumes they think all flags are like this hence the videos of them burning so many of them -- they think it's removing coastal defences.
Flags have, per Eddie Izzard, built empires.
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