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I am a huge fan of Fullmetal Brotherhood. I feel like it could translate well into a reallife weekly show. I mean a shot for shot remake...Not saying stuff couldn't get shortnened up fro times sake...but the show is sooo cinematic! The real problem would be the actors, I mean who the hell could you see playing a 15 yo badass?! And I think it'd be folly to stray from the source material at all...the manga is great the show(s) are very good, its all there!

Idk in the age of awesome tv shows if this Trigun or DBZ doesn't get a decent reallife adaptation I will die unhappy


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Too add...why aren't recent reallife adaptations good? Thoughts?

A bigger problem is who would watch it? The fans of the anime? They have an anime. Shot for shot remakes aren't very sexy anymore. They don't get people excited for the project, or interested in spending money on it. Who in the US would fund it? I don't think anyone in the west would ever take such a project seriously, let along actually make it, let alone make it well.

And well, there's Dragon Ball Evolution... which was just terrible. I mean jesus;




It's everything wrong video is 22 minutes long! And know studio execs, they'll falsely assume no one is interested, rather than the accurate conclusion that it doesn't matter what you're making, no one wants to see a bad movie.

I get what you are saying and movies like the one you brought up are no help. Just watching the show for Fullmetal though and it has damn everything.

And the add, and to your bringing up of DBZ: Evolution, the reallife adaptaions have been really damn bad...I think though if, in the age of really high quality tv shows, we can have something like Game of Thrones be successful (for a really realativly unknown story) why not put someone good behind the helm of a DBZ, Fullmetal, Fairy Tale, Trigun reallife "soap opera"?


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I mean...is it not what hollywodd is thriving off of atm?

Mj445 wrote:
I get what you are saying and movies like the one you brought up are no help. Just watching the show for Fullmetal though and it has damn everything.

And the add, and to your bringing up of DBZ: Evolution, the reallife adaptaions have been really damn bad...I think though if, in the age of really high quality tv shows, we can have something like Game of Thrones be successful (for a really realativly unknown story) why not put someone good behind the helm of a DBZ, Fullmetal, Fairy Tale, Trigun reallife "soap opera"?


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I mean...is it not what hollywodd is thriving off of atm?

Because anime -> live action usually doesn't work out. Anime just has so much more creativity that isn't limited by real life physics or cgi. Besides that, you have to get quality directors and actors who are at least somewhat versed in the source material and care enough to not let films like DBZ happen.

Take the movies for Attack on Titan. Great anime, not so great translation to live action. Although I enjoyed the movies, watching them with my kid was awkward, but I kinda suck as a dad.

Point being is America is not ready to embrace a manga to movie blockbuster unfortunately.

Not to be too blunt about it, but you are blinded by your fan-ism.

The bottom line is that anime and live-action productions are fundamentally different things, and that a shot for shot remake is only going to disappoint you even if someone decided to drop the hundreds of millions of dollars needed to do so.

This sort of thing always baffles me. What do people really think a 'live action' version of a given property will add to it? Particularly a shot-for-shot version. I mean, I'm all for different takes on a story, on a new angle on something we may already be familiar with, but this assumption that something will obviously be sooo much more awesome if only it were 'live action', I fail to see how that is supposed to work; what is the mechanism?

There seems to be this werid idea floating around that some forms of media, some formats are somehow better than others, like there is some kind of hard-and-fast hierarchy, with film at the top, live-action higher than CG, and CG higher than traditional animation, and so on. I just don't get it, different media have different strengths, and what's good for one story might be bad for another.



Also: Should this be in Geek Media?

The reason *most* anime falls flat when translated to live action is that it completely resets our suspension of disbelief values. Anime is allowed, because it's not 'real life' to ignore things we know intrinsically won't work. It's already not right.

For example, watch an anime character fly in and land- perfectly- on a small branch. Whatever, trips nothing in your brain. Watch a real person, whom you can see the weight of in their actions and momentum and having them abruptly stop immediately trips the 'not right' part of your brain. Attack on Titan suffered here because we know that if you yank someone by their belt- hard enough to send them 50 meters into the air at speed- they don't just zip off. You'd see their hips violently pulled, their extremities snapping backwards and on the whole go zooming off largely uncontrollably. Each of us knows you just can't apply forces to human beings like that and have them gracefully flip about and fight.

Live action Berserk would be equally stupid. That sword must weigh more than him. There's no way he could swing it about without being thrown around by it's momentum.

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The reason *most* anime falls flat when translated to live action is that it completely resets our suspension of disbelief values. Anime is allowed, because it's not 'real life' to ignore things we know intrinsically won't work. It's already not right.

For example, watch an anime character fly in and land- perfectly- on a small branch. Whatever, trips nothing in your brain. Watch a real person, whom you can see the weight of in their actions and momentum and having them abruptly stop immediately trips the 'not right' part of your brain. Attack on Titan suffered here because we know that if you yank someone by their belt- hard enough to send them 50 meters into the air at speed- they don't just zip off. You'd see their hips violently pulled, their extremities snapping backwards and on the whole go zooming off largely uncontrollably. Each of us knows you just can't apply forces to human beings like that and have them gracefully flip about and fight.

Live action Berserk would be equally stupid. That sword must weigh more than him. There's no way he could swing it about without being thrown around by it's momentum.

I disagree, to an extent. Movies like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon do exactly what you describe with the same suspension of disbelief. I think it's just harder to do in live action movies.

It comes all down to the director, the writer and the movie company.

Usually directors who like take risks make good manga based movies.
Battle royal, Nana, Initial D, Ichi the killer, Detroit Metal City are all good translation of the manga.

Western movie directors try to adapt the movie to western audiences diluting the thing what fans like of the source material in the first place.