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Did Volkmar the Grimm survived the End Times? Is he now a legit AoS character? I am checking GW website and the Volkmar is there with the Theoginist mobile. Or GW just want to cash in with the Grimm and the Grave DLC?

I am hoping they keep some of those old characters around and keep models so we can disregard the fluff of AoS and just use the rules to play in the old world.

Volkmar is super-dead. He was used as a sacrifice to bring back Nagash; it kicked off the whole End-Times event.

Lukeovich wrote:
Volkmar is super-dead. He was used as a sacrifice to bring back Nagash; it kicked off the whole End-Times event.

Don't count him out yet considering he is still named... his model is pretty much just an Arch lector on a war altar as of right now. He was used as a catalyst to resurrect nagash in the end times sigmar's blood was the prelude to the event. Now considering he is a named character he may possibly come back when the devoted of sigmar book comes out and it seems they will get an update at some point considering GW have been hinting at it.

I mean Karl franz was renamed as a free guild general, yet Volkmar keeps his name?

Going over the fluff it's been hinted GW has some plans for devoted of sigmar it would not surprise me if they become the new "main" human force. They have been appearing a lot in the fluff and a force of them were even in a campaign book and they got a new model via sliver tower and they are as awesome as nails against chaos.

Would not surprise me with their book they might just be as good against undead as well. He is not in the fluff "yet" I think. If he was not he would he would just of been called "Arch lector on war altar".

I mean he is also descended from sigmar and considering he needs to unite the normal people bringing Volkmar back might be a good symbol for it.

My books are all in storage currently but I thought he had a glossed-over death. Maybe I'm confusing the mass character extermination or maybe it's all that outrageous facial hair that confuses the Empire heroes for me.

 VeteranNoob wrote:
My books are all in storage currently but I thought he had a glossed-over death. Maybe I'm confusing the mass character extermination or maybe it's all that outrageous facial hair that confuses the Empire heroes for me.

Nah Arkhan used his body to revive nagash since he had divine blood he is descended from sigmar since sigmar had two sons when he was mortal. As I said before don't count him out considering he is still named on the website when most things are not. In my opinion Free guild are too "plain" which I feel was the issue with the empire whfb.

I personally prefer the more zealous/religious side to the empire much more interesting and the devoted of sigmar has been appearing in the fluff here and there. He was one of the first to die in the end times but considering his character and the morale like effect he inspires with his faith I would not put it past sigmar to bring him back somehow.

I mean Karl franz was renamed as a free guild general, yet Volkmar keeps his name?

Warscroll doesn't have the name, it's just War Altar of Sigmar, so it's likely they haven't fully updated the page yet.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

I mean Karl franz was renamed as a free guild general, yet Volkmar keeps his name?

Warscroll doesn't have the name, it's just War Altar of Sigmar, so it's likely they haven't fully updated the page yet.

I am still holding out hope for the god like mustache battle pope to return.

Dueling moustaches?! It could be!

Doesn't he kind of sort of survive a little since Nagash kind of stole his body. So if Nagash is in the game then I guess you can say he's also still in it.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

I mean Karl franz was renamed as a free guild general, yet Volkmar keeps his name?

Warscroll doesn't have the name, it's just War Altar of Sigmar, so it's likely they haven't fully updated the page yet.

First I thought this aswell, but I do remember that they renamed every single named character in the store. Its just kind of convinient that they renamed him when the "Grim and the Grave" DLC poped up for TW:W. Although the things that they have recently done, bringing back Grombindal with the Slayer mini, would suggest that he will be revised aswell.

Who knows, maybe Sigmar himself would raise back up his most pious individual in some form.

Some heroes did survive the end times after-all, it's just a matter of where or when.

herjan1987 wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

I mean Karl franz was renamed as a free guild general, yet Volkmar keeps his name?

Warscroll doesn't have the name, it's just War Altar of Sigmar, so it's likely they haven't fully updated the page yet.

First I thought this aswell, but I do remember that they renamed every single named character in the store. Its just kind of convinient that they renamed him when the "Grim and the Grave" DLC poped up for TW:W. Although the things that they have recently done, bringing back Grombindal with the Slayer mini, would suggest that he will be revised aswell.

He still had his name even before the DLC. As I said before many known characters got reduced to generic lord options yet I find it odd that Volkmar is kept the same it might be an oversight but from a lore stand point I think it would be great to have him he would be an interesting rival for mannfred.

This is just my opinion.

Honestly playing him along with the fallgelents and knights of the blazing sun in total war warhammer it finally feels like I am playing a "fantasy" human army. The normal empire felt eeeh or just felt like another total war army even fluff wise I prefered the witch hunters, warrior priests and knightly orders etc. With volkmar and religious zealots and knights it felt more "warhammer" to me. Plus Mannfred view's sigmar and his forces as an enemy it would be nice to bring the rivalry back.

Like Karl Franz, Volkmar has been changed to a generic option on the normal warscroll. The War Altar has two weapon options for its Arch-Lector; the greathammer and the warhammer/staff combo. The latter is using the once-Volkmar model.

shinros wrote:

He still had his name even before the DLC. As I said before many known characters got reduced to generic lord options yet I find it odd that Volkmar is kept the same it might be an oversight but from a lore stand point I think it would be great to have him he would be an interesting rival for mannfred.

This is just my opinion.

Honestly playing him along with the fallgelents and knights of the blazing sun in total war warhammer it finally feels like I am playing a "fantasy" human army. The normal empire felt eeeh or just felt like another total war army even fluff wise I prefered the witch hunters, warrior priests and knightly orders etc. With volkmar and religious zealots and knights it felt more "warhammer" to me. Plus Mannfred view's sigmar and his forces as an enemy it would be nice to bring the rivalry back.

Not disagree for the sake of disagreeing, but:

When the Empire has acces to demygriffs, wizards, flying horses, magic death lasers ( luminarc ), then you call that a normal Total war army?

Shrinos the only thing that you felt playing a fantasy army, because the sigmarite church is close to you. That is what you like about the empire. Flaggelants, knights and war altar ( even if not as like the Volkmars ) existed in our own world and yes I did post this topic to confirm myself that, the War Altar has been renamed again. ( Which I like )

herjan1987 wrote:
... and yes I did post this topic to confirm myself that, the War Altar has been renamed again. ( Which I like )

The War Altar wasn't renamed again. It still has the same name on the box when the current kit was first released...

herjan1987 wrote:

shinros wrote:

He still had his name even before the DLC. As I said before many known characters got reduced to generic lord options yet I find it odd that Volkmar is kept the same it might be an oversight but from a lore stand point I think it would be great to have him he would be an interesting rival for mannfred.

This is just my opinion.

Honestly playing him along with the fallgelents and knights of the blazing sun in total war warhammer it finally feels like I am playing a "fantasy" human army. The normal empire felt eeeh or just felt like another total war army even fluff wise I prefered the witch hunters, warrior priests and knightly orders etc. With volkmar and religious zealots and knights it felt more "warhammer" to me. Plus Mannfred view's sigmar and his forces as an enemy it would be nice to bring the rivalry back.

Not disagree for the sake of disagreeing, but:

When the Empire has acces to demygriffs, wizards, flying horses, magic death lasers ( luminarc ), then you call that a normal Total war army?

Shrinos the only thing that you felt playing a fantasy army, because the sigmarite church is close to you. That is what you like about the empire. Flaggelants, knights and war altar ( even if not as like the Volkmars ) existed in our own world and yes I did post this topic to confirm myself that, the War Altar has been renamed again. ( Which I like )

Hence why those units have mainly survived the great purge but you can't make an army out of those things in the game they support it. As I said before the core of your empire army are not made up of those things, while the crazy religious dude's who I find more interesting can. Many in my GW just find the free guild/empire(rules/fluff) to be boring while the devoted of sigmar are a lot more interesting and the opposite in terms of gameplay.

The war altar has not been renamed again it's always been that way. I personally find it peculiar why they still named him on the website which happened waaaaay before the DLC. Anyway him being still named on the website store might be an oversight or maybe I am just reading too much into it one can hope though.

Still he has not appeared in the fluff yet so at this point we should consider him "dead" for now.

 Ghaz wrote:

herjan1987 wrote:
... and yes I did post this topic to confirm myself that, the War Altar has been renamed again. ( Which I like )

The War Altar wasn't renamed again. It still has the same name on the box when the current kit was first released...

Do they sell Karl Franz as Karl Franz or does he run on Freeguild general? They didnt repacked every kit.

 shinros wrote:

herjan1987 wrote:

shinros wrote:

He still had his name even before the DLC. As I said before many known characters got reduced to generic lord options yet I find it odd that Volkmar is kept the same it might be an oversight but from a lore stand point I think it would be great to have him he would be an interesting rival for mannfred.

This is just my opinion.

Honestly playing him along with the fallgelents and knights of the blazing sun in total war warhammer it finally feels like I am playing a "fantasy" human army. The normal empire felt eeeh or just felt like another total war army even fluff wise I prefered the witch hunters, warrior priests and knightly orders etc. With volkmar and religious zealots and knights it felt more "warhammer" to me. Plus Mannfred view's sigmar and his forces as an enemy it would be nice to bring the rivalry back.

Not disagree for the sake of disagreeing, but:

When the Empire has acces to demygriffs, wizards, flying horses, magic death lasers ( luminarc ), then you call that a normal Total war army?

Shrinos the only thing that you felt playing a fantasy army, because the sigmarite church is close to you. That is what you like about the empire. Flaggelants, knights and war altar ( even if not as like the Volkmars ) existed in our own world and yes I did post this topic to confirm myself that, the War Altar has been renamed again. ( Which I like )

Hence why those units have mainly survived the great purge but you can't make an army out of those things in the game they support it. As I said before the core of your empire army are not made up of those things, while the crazy religious dude's who are find more interesting can.The war altar has not been renamed again it's always been that way. I personally find it peculiar why they still named him on the website which happened waaaaay before the DLC. Anyway him being still named on the website store might be an oversight or maybe I am just reading too much into it one can hope though.

Still he has not appeared in the fluff yet so at this point we should consider him "dead" for now.

You cant buy Empire captain on pegasus anymore. Does the Generals compodium lists him as Volkmar the Grimm on the War Altar of Sigmar in the Devoted to Sigmar section?

It's just War Altar of sigmar in the generals handbook for devoted of sigmar. Volkmar is in the legacy section.

So as I said he is pretty much "dead" until otherwise.

edit:What I am trying to say is that I would like him back but I don't think he is coming back.

So while he's been renamed in the online store, his box still has the same name on it. Volkmar was never renamed in the online store and his box still has the same name on it.

 shinros wrote:
It's just War Altar of sigmar in the generals handbook for devoted of sigmar. Volkmar is in the legacy section.

So as I said he is pretty much "dead" until otherwise.

edit:What I am trying to say is that I would like him back but I don't think he is coming back.

I get that. But I do remember that in the store it was simply War Altar of Sigmar. ( It doesnt make sense that you list him A and sell it as B, althought we are talking about GW ) Hence why I am courios why did they rename him.

 Ghaz wrote:


So while he's been renamed in the online store, his box still has the same name on it. Volkmar was never renamed in the online store and his box still has the same name on it.

Yeah it's always been that way they did not rename him to "Volkmar" when the DLC for total war was released. My personal surprise is the fact they have not changed it. As I said might be an oversight or intentional who knows with GW.

 shinros wrote:

Yeah it's always been that way they did not rename him to "Volkmar" when the DLC for total war was released. My personal surprise is the fact they have not changed it. As I said might be an oversight or intentional who knows with GW.

To get it straight I am talking about webshop only. not packing. You still get a Heinrich Kemler blister when you purchase the Necromancer.

herjan1987 wrote:

 shinros wrote:

Yeah it's always been that way they did not rename him to "Volkmar" when the DLC for total war was released. My personal surprise is the fact they have not changed it. As I said might be an oversight or intentional who knows with GW.

To get it straight I am talking about webshop only. not packing. You still get a Heinrich Kemler blister when you purchase the Necromancer.

Yeah it's always been that way even before the DLC mate. They did not change it at all.

Interestingly enough he doesn't have the Devoted of Sigmar keyword