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Greetings Dakka!

I am building a Stormtrooper small army, painted white and black, and I wanted to kill rebels.. I mean heretics with a converted knight. The idea would be sort of an Empire Strike Back attack on Hoth.

The idea was to gather from Ebay 4 IK legs, use a land speeder (cut) for the head, and mount leman russ bits as weapons under and on the side of the head. I would add other bits once I will find them, especially to adjust size, and look for tempestus taurox pilots.

I have a some concern

- what can I use as body? perhaps a rhino? I think I need something bigger

- would the model be legal? the weapons of the knight are on his arms, and the model "walks" with the front being on his large side of the base; here the short size of the base would be the front of the model, and the main weapons "twin linked" on the sides of the head, and below. Is this acceptable?

what do you think? Do you have suggestions for bits I should hunt? Feel free to give ANY input!

Thank you!

I like the sound of it!

For the body maybe Bastion or Cities of Death walls would work?

Sounds legal to me.

Yeah, I was thinking bastion too, although a pair of storm ravens might look better.

this sounds cool, and I'd love to see it when it's done...it might be a bit big for 1 knight though? (I wouldn't personally have any problem with that, "rule of cool" and all, but still...)

worst-case scenario, you might have to use it as 2 imperial knights, that always move around the table together for some reason ...and now I'm imagining a pair of imperial knights wearing a "pantomime horse"-style AT-AT costume ...ohh nooo I'm sorry

...and as others have already said, yeah, one or two "imperial bastion" kits should work to make the body ...the bastion also includes a couple of nice big guns you could use on the "head" too

@Alex Kolodotschko - oh man...that image cracked me up

 ZoBo wrote:
@Alex Kolodotschko - oh man...that image cracked me up

Good good, t'was my intention. I've tried to do it with the stormravens but was too busy laughing.
Feel free to have a go yourself although I must warn you that a Masters Degree in MS Paint is essential.

Better?




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Take a look at Revells AT-TE easykit for some cheaper legs and more of the work done for you already.

Honestly I'd just start with an AT-AT and then modify it heavily with GW bits. At the very least use AT-AT legs.

Got it, got it. The knight legs are too big.

But dreadnight legs are too small! What can I do? Can someone point a 3rd party product suitable?

Well the AT-AT legs are really basic. You could probably just build some with plasticard or balsa wood then cover them with GW detailing.

You major issue is going to be the hieght. The AT-AT is massively tall on very narrow legs, while GW tends toward short and fat.

The knight is also a two legs which barely fits on its base as it is. Have you considered doing an AT-ST instead?

Other option would be to go smaller and use Riptide legs with Imperial-style armour? These are smaller and thinner and would potentially work if you straightened them out

AT-AT's are kinda huge though right? as in, transferring it to 40k, it's head would be about the size of a land raider I'd say...so it would probably be more suited to a "warlord titan" (maybe even imperator titan) type role.

...you want to make something starwars-y that works as an imperial knight...what about an AT-ST?

(edit - I think I'm just going to stop posting tonight, this is the second time I've posted something that someone else basically said already while I was typing )

Is not important that the proportions (of the vehicle itself or with the movie) exact, is enough that is big enough to be a reference.
And I would use just a part of the Speeder as head.

Still, PossumCraft is right about the legs; way too big. I either switch to AT-ST (what what IG sentinels are, again) or I have to find something more.. scaled down.

Riptide legs could be an idea, but I am not sure they can fit the aesthetic. I can scratch-build but it will be a pain.

Actually the Dreadknight legs, put in a better perspective, could not be so terrible. Still no idea about the body.

maybe defiler legs, modelled fairly straight? - leaving off the spikey plates and claws of course...not sure what you could do for the feet...plastic bottle caps with plasticard toes?...I dunno...

 Kaiyanwang wrote:
Is not important that the proportions (of the vehicle itself or with the movie) exact, is enough that is big enough to be a reference.
And I would use just a part of the Speeder as head.

Hang on a sec, so are you saying what you want is a model comparable to the AT-AT in size? I might be misreading that, but you would be looking at something the size of two titans stuck together I think.

If you want something that looks like the AT-AT but size doesnt matter then yeah, Dreadknight legs would be a good place to start.

The AT-ST in the movies was quite a bit bigger than the GW Sentinels. In the movie people could stand and walk inside the hull of an AT-ST, so you'd be looking at something perhaps the size of a Taurox or Land Speeder on legs.

PossumCraft wrote:

 Kaiyanwang wrote:
Is not important that the proportions (of the vehicle itself or with the movie) exact, is enough that is big enough to be a reference.
And I would use just a part of the Speeder as head.

Hang on a sec, so are you saying what you want is a model comparable to the AT-AT in size? I might be misreading that, but you would be looking at something the size of two titans stuck together I think.

If you want something that looks like the AT-AT but size doesnt matter then yeah, Dreadknight legs would be a good place to start.

The AT-ST in the movies was quite a bit bigger than the GW Sentinels. In the movie people could stand and walk inside the hull of an AT-ST, so you'd be looking at something perhaps the size of a Taurox or Land Speeder on legs.

Besides, Wookiepedia says the AT-AT is 22.5 meters (height and lenght), dunno how much is reliable. Wow.

Sorry, I was not clear. Yes, I do not mind if the proportions are a bit off compared to the movie one - if the legs are shorter, nevermind. The same, as the sentinels are smaller than the AT-ST, is ok having my AT-AT smaller and more 40k style. Is enough if people look at it, look at the stormies and say "I see what you did here".

So yes, good for the Knight base is more than enough

I will probbaly use Alex's "art" as desktop theme anyway.

 Kaiyanwang wrote:
- what can I use as body? perhaps a rhino? I think I need something bigger

Maybe try the new GW Munitorum Armoured Containers? They look like they would be a perfect fit for a body and have some small mounted weapon options available.



EDIT: You can glue however many you want together to adjust the size and add some Rhino/Predator/Land Raider interior gadgetry if you wanted to model the inside, which these containers seem to already be prepped for.

 hybridmoments82 wrote:

 Kaiyanwang wrote:
- what can I use as body? perhaps a rhino? I think I need something bigger

Maybe try the new GW Munitorum Armoured Containers? They look like they would be a perfect fit for a body and have some small mounted weapon options available.



EDIT: You can glue however many you want together to adjust the size and add some Rhino/Predator/Land Raider interior gadgetry if you wanted to model the inside, which these containers seem to already be prepped for.

I TOTALLY forgot these! I have to check the size but it looks very good! Thanks!

You're welcome! I sure hope you decide to post a WIP thread on this.

Oh the crates are a good idea, I even have some and didn't thihk of them.

Crates...maybe Sentinel legs...part of the land speeder for the head (or a part from one of the flyers)...

crates and dreadknight legs

hmm...you could actually just buy a big toy AT-AT, give it a little 40k customisation, and a nice paintjob?...or would that be cheating?

I can not wait to see how this turns out!

Small update!

I gathered 2 Leman Russ cannons, 2 Punisher cannons, the hull of a Land speeder, The hull of a rhino, waiting for bits from a leman russ; it will be a knight crusader built as a ground support for white painted Tempestus Scions

I still miss 2 heavy stubber, and I do not know to put the melta. Working on the head, unsure if it goes opened or closed, I wish to show the scions inside. I see if I can do both. Is difficult!

Is complicated because I need to magnetize it!

I am gathering other bits to add details. It will have a turret for the anti-air, but it will be detachable for the "purists".

The legs are 4 DK legs PLUS part of the dread legs! Is really exciting but is slow to gather the bits on ebay without spending too much.

When I have at least a whole part build I will upload photos

Thanks people!

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 ZoBo wrote:
AT-AT's are kinda huge though right? as in, transferring it to 40k, it's head would be about the size of a land raider I'd say...

Not that big. Wizards of the Coast's 30mm AT-AT (from the Star Wars Miniatures game) is about 11" tall, and the head is around the size of a Space Marine landspeeder.


But still a little big for a Knight... would be better as a Warhound, or a small Reaver stand-in.




For a smaller option, I did this a few years back...

 insaniak wrote:

 ZoBo wrote:
AT-AT's are kinda huge though right? as in, transferring it to 40k, it's head would be about the size of a land raider I'd say...

Not that big. Wizards of the Coast's 30mm AT-AT (from the Star Wars Miniatures game) is about 11" tall, and the head is around the size of a Space Marine landspeeder.


But still a little big for a Knight... would be better as a Warhound, or a small Reaver stand-in.




For a smaller option, I did this a few years back...

This is insanely useful.

(Count-as chimera I suppose - is true that according to the fluff the walkers are troops transports ).

Folks at GW did something similar with AT-ST kits about 30 years ago, from white dwarf:

The body of that wasn't an AT-ST, it was from a toy range called ZOIDS.

Hips down are definitely an ATST figure, though.