Yodhrin wrote:
At this point I have to think either people are just trying to get a rise, or can't be bothered actually reading what others have written, else folk wouldn't still be asking what the big deal with Magnus is when that's been explicitly addressed on multiple occasions by multiple posters.

But hey, if folk are determined to dismiss actual, real, as in it's already happened concerns because either they have no experience of the effects or are just willing to roll with whatever GW churn out, that's that eh.

You can choose to ignore the impact of these kinds of changes, but it will still happen. I've been involved with the Specialist Games since the initial releases of BFG and Mordheim, and every time GW reduced support culminating in the final canning, it's gotten harder and harder to get new people involved. And don't tell me fluff has no impact on that, because not long ago I was trying to put together a Mordheim campaign and the new AoS fluff is the reason it failed to get off the ground - one of the prospective players was new to GW fantasy, didn't know or care about WHF fluff, and stormed off in a huff when he was told he couldn't play his precious Sigmarines in the Mordheim setting, and since many of the other prospects were his pals, they felt they couldn't be involved without him, so we didn't get enough signups to justify a regular table.

Also don't try telling me "minor" changes to the background don't have real implications, look at the Iron Hands. A lot of IH fans have been around since the IA article in 3rd Edition, until GW casually gutted their fluff. They're still called Iron Hands, they're still "black-armoured Marines with loads of bionics", but the structure of the chapter and the tone of the fluff were altered. Now I get labelled as a powergamer by people who're newer to the game and only know the new fluff because I continue to use the Space Wolf codex to represent the chapter as it was, I've even had people refuse to play me on that basis. And try explaining to one of the new fans why, plenty of them will take your distaste for the new fluff ridiculously personally, as if you're criticising them for liking it, that reaction is always fun.

Albino Squirrel wrote:

 MajorTom11 wrote:

 Fayric wrote:
I think the "red" part has more to do with the egyptian theme rather than tzeench.
The common egyptian was depicted with red skin, if I recall correctly. That would fit with magnus tanned "coppery" skin in a way beeing red.
Also the god seth was depicted with a donkey brush of red hair,

(And Seths battles with Horus is also kind of interresting; basicly, while the true god ruler, Osiris, is reduced to a be corpse on a throne passively channeling his soul power, there is a great civil war between Seth and Horus for the reign of the land.)

Nope, his skin is/was always bright red, an unnatural red, it wasn't hyperbole or exaggeration. He is the color he is supposed to be -

It wasn't always. His description in the Epic (Space Marine) game said he was called Magnus the Red because of his red hair. And he was a cyclops. The red skin and two eye sockets I think was created when they started expanding on the Horus Heresy probably for that card game they did set in the heresy. A lot of artwork was created for that game for things that didn't have much artwork before.

And I'd have to get out my old books to find where, but I recall his skin being described as coppery, with red hair and beard. It was changed at some point.