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Now that we have some people who want to and play Age of Sigmar now, I am trying to learn the game now. I am not sure if this question would be the same question I asked a long time ago. I know for my Icebrow Hunter has Hunter's Crossbow and Great Throwing Spear and both can be used to shoot in the same phase.

My question is, is it the same for Melee weapons? For example the Frostlord on Stonehorn has 2 melee attacks each. One is 2" away the other is 1" away. So if an enemy is 1" away does that mean I can use all 4 attacks (2 from the Frostlord and 2 from the Stonehorn) or I have to pick and choose if I am going to use the 2" or 1" melee attack?

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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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You get all of them.

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You get to attack with all melee weapons equipped on the model. Similar to the question you asked about the Icebrow Hunter, check the first paragraph on the warscroll. It will tell you how the model can be equipped. Looking at the warscroll online, it looks like the Frostlord on Stonehorn can actually attack with all weapon profiles.

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Thank you Ninthmusketeer and Entyme. I have a new question. I am reading my Beastclaw Battletomb. It says if I have a Hero one of them can choose a Trophy.

How is this usually done? Just pick what you want or roll for it? Reason I ask is since I don't see in the General's Handbook how much the points cost for the Trophy. I don't know if other armies can have trophies as well and can pick what they want and I guess this makes it a bit fair or everyone has to roll for them.

Trying to make a 1000 point army using the Icewind Assault boxset. So not sure how Trophies work in designing an army for points.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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You don't have to pay points for artifacts/trophies. You either roll for them or chose them depending on what the tournament/league/opponent agrees on.

You also get an extra artifact on an additional Hero for every battle tome you take in a list (and pay points for).


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Also here is a great starter list for beastclaw raiders at 1000 points only using the ice wind assault box contents:

1x Huskard on Stonehorn - blood raven ranged weapon

1x Stonehorn Beastriders - blood raven ranged weapon

1x (2) Mornfang Cavalry - Gargant hackers

1x (2) Frostsabers

Use the Destruction faction traits and artifact tables.

Comes to 1000 points


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I would recommend magnetizing the stonehorn/thundertusk heads if you are up for it.

I used 1/4 inch magnets, they hold the head in place very well. that way you can switch between the two options easily to try different lists.

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Thank you so much for your post Forcast.

 Forcast wrote:

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I would recommend magnetizing the stonehorn/thundertusk heads if you are up for it.

I used 1/4 inch magnets, they hold the head in place very well. that way you can switch between the two options easily to try different lists.


I was going to magnetize but ran out of magnets so I just glued everything. Went to the store they didn't have the big size magnets so gave up on magnets for now. For now I am going by look of cool and use "counts as" and I am hoping when I have spare money again will buy more minis and make them differently. I did a bit of converting though.

This is what I got so far.



And I have combined the Stormhorn and thundertus into a Stormtusk.




Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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Nice conversion there, you should put it in the AoS projects thread.

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I try to view Warhammer as more of a toolbox with examples than fully complete games. 
   
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I did NinthMusketeer. Or at least I thought I did.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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 Forcast wrote:

You also get an extra artifact on an additional Hero for every battle tome you take in a list (and pay points for).



I think Davor knew what he meant, but just in case, I think Forcast meant to say "for every warscroll battalion".

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 EnTyme wrote:
You get to attack with all melee weapons equipped on the model. Similar to the question you asked about the Icebrow Hunter, check the first paragraph on the warscroll. It will tell you how the model can be equipped. Looking at the warscroll online, it looks like the Frostlord on Stonehorn can actually attack with all weapon profiles.


its not always true for every model. Always read the units description because it will say often things like: The model is armed with X and Y OR Z, some times model is armed with Q instead. Just making attacks with everything listed on the profile is very wrong a lot of the time.
   
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buffalozap wrote:
 EnTyme wrote:
You get to attack with all melee weapons equipped on the model. Similar to the question you asked about the Icebrow Hunter, check the first paragraph on the warscroll. It will tell you how the model can be equipped. Looking at the warscroll online, it looks like the Frostlord on Stonehorn can actually attack with all weapon profiles.


its not always true for every model. Always read the units description because it will say often things like: The model is armed with X and Y OR Z, some times model is armed with Q instead. Just making attacks with everything listed on the profile is very wrong a lot of the time.


That's literally what I said.

2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
 
   
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Davor wrote:
Thank you so much for your post Forcast.

 Forcast wrote:

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I would recommend magnetizing the stonehorn/thundertusk heads if you are up for it.

I used 1/4 inch magnets, they hold the head in place very well. that way you can switch between the two options easily to try different lists.


I was going to magnetize but ran out of magnets so I just glued everything. Went to the store they didn't have the big size magnets so gave up on magnets for now. For now I am going by look of cool and use "counts as" and I am hoping when I have spare money again will buy more minis and make them differently. I did a bit of converting though.

This is what I got so far.



And I have combined the Stormhorn and thundertus into a Stormtusk.





Fancy! I like the combo head, it could easily count for whichever type you want.

I bet most people don't know the difference between them, rules wise maybe but not what the official horn arrangement is.
   
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That is why I did it. I can't for the life of me know what to make yet. Now what to do with the other one?

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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Now that we are at it, supose I have a model and it has 2 weapons (two diferent profiles). There's two units in btb contact. Do I get to split the attacks or all of them must focus one unit?
   
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Each attack can go on any valid target so you can split them up however you want, even a single weapon can allocate its attacks to multiple targets. However, you have to declare where all the attacks are going before you roll any dice.

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I chose an avatar I feel best represents the quality of my post history.

I try to view Warhammer as more of a toolbox with examples than fully complete games. 
   
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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Each attack can go on any valid target so you can split them up however you want, even a single weapon can allocate its attacks to multiple targets. However, you have to declare where all the attacks are going before you roll any dice.


That I did not know. Thanks for asking the question Lord Kragen.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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Davor wrote:
 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Each attack can go on any valid target so you can split them up however you want, even a single weapon can allocate its attacks to multiple targets. However, you have to declare where all the attacks are going before you roll any dice.


That I did not know. Thanks for asking the question Lord Kragen.


That's what my megaboss said.
   
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If i have a pair of weapons do i get double the attacks?
e.g. it says that the skaven warlord can take a pair of barbed blades
and under barbed blades it has 5 attacks does that mean if i take a pair i get 10 attacks?
   
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hummus wrote:
If i have a pair of weapons do i get double the attacks?
e.g. it says that the skaven warlord can take a pair of barbed blades
and under barbed blades it has 5 attacks does that mean if i take a pair i get 10 attacks?

Answered in the Age of Sigmar FAQ, first question under 'Attacking' on page 4.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
 
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