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Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




Well I got most of the stuff ordered for my Eldar allies, but we have game day next week at our local shop dedicated to tourney practice. I still want to play and give my opponent a decent game, I've also been pretty disenchanted with how my original list had been playing. It was Grotesqurie w/ attached Succubus, wwp Dark Artisan, 3 squads of 6 reavers, 2 triple lance Ravagers, but only 2 Venoms w/ Warriors. While it was fun to play garage style, anytime I came up against a good tourney list, commanded by a decent player, I got rofl-stomped.

So the plan is to drop the 2 Ravagers (never did a damn thing anyway), the Dark Artisan (which was super unreliable) and add another CAD. It's basically my 1250 list plus an additional CAD. It's also the basis of my Space Elf biker gang. and has the benefit of being already painted (even if 12 of the Reavers are the old 3rd editions) and ready to go.

On to the list

Grotesqurie (470 pts)

Haemonculus w/scissorhand & Sump

3 Grotesques including Abby w/scissorhand
Raider w/dissies, prow, & sail

3 Grotesques including Abby w/scissorhand
Raider w/dissies, prow, & sail

DE CAD 1 (799 pts)

Succubus w/glaive,AoM, & hwg

3 Mandrakes

5 Kabalite Warriors
Venom w/2 splintercannons

5 Kabalite Warriors
Venom w/2 splintercannons

6 Reavers w/2 cluster caltrops & 2 Heat Lances

6 Reavers w/2 cluster caltrops & 2 Heat Lances

6 Reavers w/2 cluster caltrops & 2 Heat Lances

DE CAD 2 (581 pts)

Lhamean
Venom w/2 splintercannons & Grisly Trophies

3 Mandrakes

3 Mandrakes

5 Kabalite Warriors
Venom w/splintercannons

5 Kabalite Warriors
Venom w/2 splintercannons

3 Reavers w/1 cluster caltrops & 1 Heat Lance

3 Reavers w/1 cluster caltrops & 1 Heat Lance

3 Reavers w/1 cluster caltrops & 1 Heat Lance

1850 pts

I have a lot of options with this list, and MSU seems like the way to go with DE (duh). The inclusion of the small units of Mandrakes gives me some counter infiltrators, outflanking objective grabbers and some cheap speed bumps. Venoms gang up on infantry units and grab objectives, while Grotesques and Reavers take out vehicles and do the heavy lifting.

Any ideas on how to improve the list and any helpful advice to make enemies out of my friends?!

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/10/30 23:32:37


 
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka






Its a Fun and Fluffy list.

Why are you not using Realspace CAD and making more units of bikes?

6 units of 3 units then 3 units of 3 units?

   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




Figured obsec was more important, and this way the list gives me obsec units. 4 Venoms & 4 Kabalite squads.
   
Made in gb
Furious Fire Dragon






Four obsec units isn't that many. Ideally you would want a full six to make the CAD worth it over Realspace Raiders IMO.

For Khaela Mensha Khaine
For the Emperor and Sanguinius!
DS:90+S++G+++MB--IPw40k15#+D+A+/mWD-R+T(T)DM+ 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




It's 8 the Venoms and the Kabalite each have obsec, for 8 obsec units. Don't have my book w/me and can't remember the other benefits of the RSR, something about bonus cover save during night fight, right?
   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka






Its 6 fast attack slots, so you have more room to have more MSU's (but its During Nighting on turn 1 your Troops have 5+, other units 6+, but this literally is trash b.c NF gives Stealth, and Stealth is +1 to cover, so you will almost always have better cover, so stupid).

And 4 Venoms even with 4 Warrior units isnt alot, from all my games as DE, Warriors being ObjSec never played a roll, my bikes, scourges, and Grots/Talos on the other hand are always on objectives.

Not saying what you are doing it Bad, it was just an option if you didnt want 6man bike units

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/10/31 13:35:11


   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




Didn't take offense, just couldn't remember the other part to RSR. I've had pretty good results with 6 man reaver units, they pack a punch and the Heat Lances are great against dropped and dreadnoughts, especially coming out of reserves.
Thanx for your comments!
   
 
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