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Black Library just released a bunch of covers for their new slate of books...


is the guy on the right of Magnus (our left) is that Ahriman or could that be any generic librarian?

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Yes, that's Ahriman. GW/BL does not do any art that doesn't match a model that they sell, and the Ahriman model is the only one that looks like that.



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Last time I looked Ahriman was the Chief Librarian of the Thousand Sons, walking around with his Primarch is pretty much exactly where I'd expect him to be.

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Now that I think of it.... Ahriman is probably the only chief librarian of the original legions that was actually a weaker psyker than his primarch

I assume the other Chief Librarians were actually more powerful than their primarchs in terms of psyker ability

(don't get me wrong, the primarchs were still overall more powerful than the chief librarians)

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LightKing wrote:
Now that I think of it.... Ahriman is probably the only chief librarian of the original legions that was actually a weaker psyker than his primarch

This is definitely not true of Sanguinius, the Night Haunter, Perturabo, and Mortarion. Sanguinius and the Night Haunter were powerful psykers, while Perturabo and Mortarion had at least some psychic ability, but didn't have librarians at all.

"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."

This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.


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 DarknessEternal wrote:

This is definitely not true of Sanguinius, the Night Haunter, Perturabo, and Mortarion. Sanguinius and the Night Haunter were powerful psykers, while Perturabo and Mortarion had at least some psychic ability, but didn't have librarians at all.

What was Peturabo's Psychic ability?
   
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LightKing wrote:
Now that I think of it.... Ahriman is probably the only chief librarian of the original legions that was actually a weaker psyker than his primarch

I assume the other Chief Librarians were actually more powerful than their primarchs in terms of psyker ability

(don't get me wrong, the primarchs were still overall more powerful than the chief librarians)



The thing is, all Primarchs had some form a psychic latent potential literally "crafted" into them, as there were basically made as much from the warp as from genetical manipulation. That's what gave them this particular aura that's so extensively described in the BL books. And that latent potential, even if not manifested in the form of psychic power, would be way beyond what a "mere" librarian could hope to achieve (now with sorcery/daemonhood/etc that's another story).
   
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 DarknessEternal wrote:
LightKing wrote:
Now that I think of it.... Ahriman is probably the only chief librarian of the original legions that was actually a weaker psyker than his primarch

This is definitely not true of Sanguinius, the Night Haunter, Perturabo, and Mortarion. Sanguinius and the Night Haunter were powerful psykers, while Perturabo and Mortarion had at least some psychic ability, but didn't have librarians at all.


I was under the impression that Sanguinius, Lorgar, Khan, and Magnus were the only Primarchs who were psykers at all. Current 30k rules Lorgar is the only psyker among their ranks, the other three don't have rules yet.

Mortarion and Night Haunter have oddly-described rules that could be interpreted as latent psychic abilities, but I haven't read enough of the novels to be able to make an authoritative statement.

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Engrenages wrote:
LightKing wrote:
Now that I think of it.... Ahriman is probably the only chief librarian of the original legions that was actually a weaker psyker than his primarch

I assume the other Chief Librarians were actually more powerful than their primarchs in terms of psyker ability

(don't get me wrong, the primarchs were still overall more powerful than the chief librarians)



The thing is, all Primarchs had some form a psychic latent potential literally "crafted" into them, as there were basically made as much from the warp as from genetical manipulation. That's what gave them this particular aura that's so extensively described in the BL books. And that latent potential, even if not manifested in the form of psychic power, would be way beyond what a "mere" librarian could hope to achieve (now with sorcery/daemonhood/etc that's another story).

with the exception of Corvus Corax. Who explicitly says he has no psyker ability, and may actually be a pariah - it would tie in with his innate "dont notice me" ability and the fact that when he first meets his father he sees Revalation, (a la Last Church) not the Emperor.

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locarno24 wrote:

with the exception of Corvus Corax. Who explicitly says he has no psyker ability, and may actually be a pariah - it would tie in with his innate "dont notice me" ability and the fact that when he first meets his father he sees Revalation, (a la Last Church) not the Emperor.

Corax being a pariah strikes me as unlikely. He has no similar impact on Psykers, he isn't inexplicably feared and distrusted and "don't notice me" isn't much associated with blanks. Wouldn't they actually be noticed more because of the aura of revulsion they emanate?

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SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:
 DarknessEternal wrote:

This is definitely not true of Sanguinius, the Night Haunter, Perturabo, and Mortarion. Sanguinius and the Night Haunter were powerful psykers, while Perturabo and Mortarion had at least some psychic ability, but didn't have librarians at all.

What was Peturabo's Psychic ability?

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Pert had his unique relationship with the Eye of terror, but I don't know about anything fancier.

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SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:
 DarknessEternal wrote:

This is definitely not true of Sanguinius, the Night Haunter, Perturabo, and Mortarion. Sanguinius and the Night Haunter were powerful psykers, while Perturabo and Mortarion had at least some psychic ability, but didn't have librarians at all.

What was Peturabo's Psychic ability?


To expand on the post above mine, Perturabo could always see/feel the Eye of Terror regardless of where he was in the galaxy. It's suggested that he resides in the eye of terror now precisely because it is the only place in the galaxy from which the eye of terror doesn't stare at him from above.

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Engrenages wrote:
LightKing wrote:
Now that I think of it.... Ahriman is probably the only chief librarian of the original legions that was actually a weaker psyker than his primarch

I assume the other Chief Librarians were actually more powerful than their primarchs in terms of psyker ability

(don't get me wrong, the primarchs were still overall more powerful than the chief librarians)



The thing is, all Primarchs had some form a psychic latent potential literally "crafted" into them, as there were basically made as much from the warp as from genetical manipulation. That's what gave them this particular aura that's so extensively described in the BL books. And that latent potential, even if not manifested in the form of psychic power, would be way beyond what a "mere" librarian could hope to achieve (now with sorcery/daemonhood/etc that's another story).

This guy is 100% correct.

"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."

This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.


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