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So here's the list I'm taking to LVO, any tweaks and suggestions would be appreciated.

Nemesis Strike Force, Grey Knights – 1034 points
HQ
Librarian – 160
Upgrades: PML3, DLD
TROOPS
Grey Knight Strike Squad, 1 Justicar, 7 Knights – 169
Upgrades: 2xHalbards, Hammer, Incinerator
HEAVY
Nemesis Dreadknight – 225
Upgrades: Heavy Incinerator, Heavy Psycannon, Greatsword, Personal Teleporter
Nemesis Dreadknight – 235
Upgrades: Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Psycannon, Greatsword, Personal Teleporter
LOW
Kaldor Draigo – 245

Combined Arms Detachment, Eldar – 346 points
HQ
Autarch – 103
Upgrades: Banshee Mask, Hawk Wings, Fusion Pistol, Scorpion Chainsword
TROOPS
Windriders, 3 Windriders – 81
Upgrades: 3 Scatter Lasers
Windriders, 3 Windriders – 81
Upgrades: 3 Scatter Lasers
Windriders, 3 Windriders – 81
Upgrades: 3 Scatter Lasers

Combined Arms Detachment, Cult Mechanicus – 470
HQ
Tech-priest Dominus – 140
Upgrades: Raiment of the Technomartyr, Conversion Field
TROOPS
Kataphron Destroyers, 3 Destroyers – 165
Upgrades: 3 Grav-cannons
Kataphron Destroyers, 3 Destroyers – 165
Upgrades: 3 Grav-cannons

Well, this is actually a quite interesting army.
It has solutions to many threat ranges and some decent cc capabilities.

My current list's biggest problem is against MSU--I just don't have enough shots to kill them all. I dropped Inquisitors and a NDK for the scat bikes (bo dop de do), and I think that'll solve it!

I'm not sure whether to make a Star with Libby, Draigo, and Priest with some grav, or to split them up between the two grav units.

If I get the "T1 no scatter" trait on my Libby, I'd be tempted to stick him with the PAGK. But that might leave my Warlord waaay too vulnerable.

Draigo is your warlord, yeah?

I think you should be good on the MSU front, your list has options to adapt to the situation given.

Although I am hardly the person to give advice as I don't play competitively too often, or play with allies, but it is an interesting list so I had to leave a comment.

Also, I have faced a similar list at my FLGS, but with a bigger unit of Kataphrons, but with draigo and inquisitor and the all the bells and whistles, no Eldar though.

What's the plan against flying circuses?

~Mikey

Gummy, if you live in Boulder...then the alt list you described is mine We've played together at Boulder GW, lol.
I'm swapping the =I= for Eldar.

Against flying circus I'm actually feeling ok. Lots of S6 shooting means I'll hit/wound SOMEthing. Anything that lands will either get Psilenced or grav. One of the grav units has the Cognis relic.

And no, Libby is the WL. Draigo's trait is only good against Daemons.


Here's another thought: I can make the GKSS and the Libby naked and fit in another naked Libby. Then I could still be rolling on Divination and Sanctic.

Haha, I believe so, I'm the annoying space wolf and deathwatch player

Two libbys would be better than one I think, you get more wounds split into either different units or different models, an extra mastery level (even better considering the FAQ), and dropping a few strike squad members shouldn't be too bad, as your obsec is with the faster (and tougher) bikes.

And yeah, anything that gets grounded will die, and a 3+ roll will fail eventually.

There is no reason to take a Fusion "Pistol" on the Eldar Autarch...like ever. A Fusion "Gun" is much better. They cost the same, but the gun has longer range. And since you don't trade his Shuriken pistol, he will still have +1atk in CC. Why the "pistol" is even an option for the Autarch is beyond me

You may also want to check LVO's rules for whether the Autarch can use the +1/-1 reserves roll for non-BBs. As it stands, the rule applies to the "players" reserve roll, not "friendly units" rolls. One would think it should only apply to Battle Bros, but you should check anyway.

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I'll check on ITC rules for that--I don't remember seeing anything against the RAW but it's worth looking for again.

And the fusion gun/pistol thing is weird! I hadn't checked the ranges and just assumed that pistols were a 12" range. (Used to Imperium, I guess!)