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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 22:52:44
Subject: Best chapter for vehicles?
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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Which is the best chapter to run lots of vehicles? Salamanders or Iron Hands?
Both of them are quite big on forges/ techmarines so would fit for fluff reasons.
Iron Hands get IWND dreadnoughts but Salamanders can get twin-linked MM via Vulkan.
I have quite a lot of Space Marine vehicles and am not sure which Chapter to go with.
Obviously White Scars are good for bikes and speeders but I have a lot of Dreads as well.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/12/21 22:53:26
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 22:59:52
Subject: Re:Best chapter for vehicles?
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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I would go with Iron Hands mainly because if you run any Detachment or Formation that exclusively uses the Iron Hands Chapter Tactics, then all vehicles in the same detachment or formation get the IWND Special Rule as a result of the Iron Hands Chapter Tactics (regardless of whether or not the vehicle has the Chapter Tactics Special Rule). Plus the +1 to Blessings of the Omnisiah rolls would be incredibly useful with a vehicle army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 23:05:25
Subject: Re:Best chapter for vehicles?
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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IllumiNini wrote:I would go with Iron Hands mainly because if you run any Detachment or Formation that exclusively uses the Iron Hands Chapter Tactics, then all vehicles in the same detachment or formation get the IWND Special Rule as a result of the Iron Hands Chapter Tactics (regardless of whether or not the vehicle has the Chapter Tactics Special Rule). Plus the +1 to Blessings of the Omnisiah rolls would be incredibly useful with a vehicle army.
Is this actually how it works? I looked around and there seemed to be a lot of people saying it only applied to Dreadnoughts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 23:14:57
Subject: Re:Best chapter for vehicles?
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Loopstah wrote: IllumiNini wrote:I would go with Iron Hands mainly because if you run any Detachment or Formation that exclusively uses the Iron Hands Chapter Tactics, then all vehicles in the same detachment or formation get the IWND Special Rule as a result of the Iron Hands Chapter Tactics (regardless of whether or not the vehicle has the Chapter Tactics Special Rule). Plus the +1 to Blessings of the Omnisiah rolls would be incredibly useful with a vehicle army.
Is this actually how it works? I looked around and there seemed to be a lot of people saying it only applied to Dreadnoughts.
IIRC, this issue was cleared up in the FAQ. I think that it said that if a detachment or formation took one set of Chapter Tactics exclusively (e.g. Iron Hands), then that detachment because an Iron Hands Detachment/Formation. This in turn would mean that any vehicle in this detachment/formation - regardless of whether or not they had the Chapter Tactics Special Rule - became an Iron Hands vehicle (this obviously applies regardless of the actual Chapter Tactics used). Then - under the Machine Empathy Special Rule conferred by the Iron Hands Chapter Tactics, it says the following:
Iron Hands characters and vehicles have the It Will Not Die Special Rule.[/i]
So because of all the aforementioned information, all of the vehicles in an Iron Hands Detachment or Formation get the IWND Special Rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 23:26:21
Subject: Best chapter for vehicles?
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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Ahh, had a root around on the FB page and found the answer in the FAQ.
Is that likely to become permanent or might they change it in the official FAQ release?
I have 10 Land Raiders so having them get IWND would be better than twin-linking their Multi-Melta pintels.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 23:43:56
Subject: Best chapter for vehicles?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Iron Hands for definite, not so interesting with your Land Raiders, but if you run the Fist of Medusa strike force from Angels if Death, any vehicle within 12" of an independent character gets PotMS as well...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/21 23:50:21
Subject: Best chapter for vehicles?
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Loopstah wrote:Ahh, had a root around on the FB page and found the answer in the FAQ.
Is that likely to become permanent or might they change it in the official FAQ release?
I think the FAQ has officially been released in its final form. Regardless, I think it's going to be a permanent thing.
Loopstah wrote:I have 10 Land Raiders so having them get IWND would be better than twin-linking their Multi-Melta pintels.
As long as you couple the benefits of IWND with a Techmarine or two so that you can repair Immobilised Results and whatnot, that should be alrights. But I do agree with Typo: If you can get yourself a Fist of Medusa Strike Force, that would be infinitely more exciting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/22 00:31:33
Subject: Best chapter for vehicles?
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Sinewy Scourge
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Loopstah wrote:Ahh, had a root around on the FB page and found the answer in the FAQ.
Is that likely to become permanent or might they change it in the official FAQ release?
I have 10 Land Raiders so having them get IWND would be better than twin-linking their Multi-Melta pintels.
The FAQ is now official, however it can be found in the same section as regular FAQs, I am not sure if they changed it from the draft (they did for silly rules like the drop pods doors) so you might want to check
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/22 00:36:04
Subject: Best chapter for vehicles?
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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I was under the impression they had released a BRB FAQ but not a Codex: Space Marines one, which is where the Iron Hands vehicle ruling is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/22 06:48:13
Subject: Best chapter for vehicles?
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Depends on vehicles. White scars can have H&R dreads which can be an interesting option - especially with double HF.
If we look at non-vanilla chapters, they also have good options. Like BA fragiosos, DA darkshtouds, GK dreadknights.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/22 07:01:30
Subject: Best chapter for vehicles?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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30k Blood Angels. Build the dakka-boat-squadron of doom out of the Armoured Breakthrough Rite of War, and bring 105pt/model Fast Predator squadrons with three assault cannons each.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/12/22 07:01:44
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