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I would like to propose that Celestine may be the best IC ever.

Celestine and 2 ablative wound bodyguards for 200 Points. 7WS, 7BS, 5W, EW, 2+/4++, Geminae come back 1 per turn, buffs for free, etc.

I can't think of a IC that is so durable and provides so many bonuses for so few points. I feel bad for any other IC out there (especially Chaos).

See this link for details: http://spikeybits.com/2017/01/new-pics-empyric-storm-saintly-blessings-rules.html

I totally agree with you.

I think these characters are phenomenal. I'd love to see more with this treatment, it's just unfortunate that every other IC released prior to now is lame compared to the new crew. Their rules are kinda of AoS also (heal wounds/turn effectively).

My hope is that these rules don't change in 8th, but many lf the point imbalances and rules will be adjusted in 8th for many ICs.

As a sidenote Celestines halo has eight points. Celesrine also says she is part of the emperor essentially in FoC.

Emperor is a Chaos God. Ha!

Waaaghpower wrote:
Point for point, Celestine is probably:
Top 5 supporty HQs
The best tanky HQ that does not require any support

It's hard to beat a Priest for point-efficient unit support, and Chapter Master Smashfather is more durable - Especially against massed AP2 - if he has an outside source of FNP to bump his up to 2+. (Also Smashfather has far, far better damage output.)

Solid assessment.

I'd be curious to see how the community would attribute other HQs into archetypes.