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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/13 15:44:16
Subject: [1500] - Chaos - Nords and Dwarf and Deamons oh my
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Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Alright so I have been reading and studying up on what's good and not so good in the 1500 point range, and I think this far I have come up with a pretty decent list. By no means is this a power list or tournament level but a fun and well rounded one I want to get feed back on
For a while I was debating a warshrine but from what I understand, it's a great unit, but is not worth it in 1500 point games. If I was to add it, I would drop the death shreeker and 10 fireglaves to get it In
The halberd warriors are marked with khorne, the shields are marked with tzeentch with out the shrine it does not really matter. The prince also is taking khorne mark for 3 on 3 with the ax.
I'm looking for what the faults are with this list, one such that I can see is a lack of synergy which I could address by adding a bloodsecator and dropping the death shreeker for portal of skulls.
The tactic for the army as a whole is us the shield and sword blob as bait for the charge, strig them out, and then use the halberds 2" reach to poke over the sword and shield guys. All while the Fire glaive battle wrap the hell cannon. If I can get the hell cannon to no be able to move its going to be shooting 2 shots that will hit on 3, if the target is 20 or more models hits on a 2 causeing D6 mortal wounds each.
So what do you all think? Weaknesses that would present itself?
Leaders
Daemon Prince (160)
- General
- Flying with Axe
- Trait: Great Destroyer
- Artefact: Chaos Runeblade
Units
Infernal Guard Fireglaives x 20 (200)
- Battleline (Legion of Azgorh)
Chaos Warriors x 20 (360)
- Hand Weapon & Shield
- Battleline
Chaos Warriors x 10 (180)
- Halberd & Shield
- Battleline
Chaos Warriors x 10 (180)
- Halberd & Shield
- Battleline
War Machines
Deathshrieker (120)
Hellcannon (300)
Total: 1500/2000
Once I get some feed back I'll post the 2 k version of the list
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/13 16:08:09
Subject: [1500] - Chaos - Nords and Dwarf and Deamons oh my
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Dakka Veteran
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I would enter at least one additional hero just in case you have to play 3 places of power were only heroes can grab the objectives. Something big and dangerous like a manticore.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/13 16:59:00
Subject: [1500] - Chaos - Nords and Dwarf and Deamons oh my
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Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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What you you suggest to cut to get that though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/13 17:25:35
Subject: [1500] - Chaos - Nords and Dwarf and Deamons oh my
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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To be honest I'd look into a unit with a bit of speed to it.
As it stands you will march up the board getting shot to pieces as you go.
With no real magic you can't counter enemy spells either.
So against enemy casters and warmachines you will just have to weather the incoming barrage every turn.
I'd look into a unit with some mobility.
While the hellcannon is nice, it's a lot of points for something that won't get to grips with those issues.
I'd consider some hounds, chariots, hell even a chaff unit of furies.
Just something to kill off warmachines crew and lone casters.
Edit: something like a chimera could replace the cannon with points left over.
It would also allow you to hunt down the units in question or act as a hammer against units your warriors are fighting.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/01/13 17:26:38
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/13 18:02:15
Subject: [1500] - Chaos - Nords and Dwarf and Deamons oh my
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Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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Hmm those are pretty good points.
How would this look then? Tzeentch marked on the chaos lord so he is a caster
Leaders
Chaos Lord On Manticore (300)
- General
- Blade & Lance
- Trait: Great Destroyer
- Artefact: Chaos Runeblade
Daemon Prince (160)
- Flying with Axe
- Artefact: Crown of Conquest
Units
Chaos Warriors x 20 (360)
- Hand Weapon & Shield
- Battleline
Chaos Warriors x 10 (180)
- Hand Weapon & Shield
- Battleline
Chaos Warriors x 10 (180)
- Hand Weapon & Shield
- Battleline
Infernal Guard Fireglaives x 20 (200)
- Battleline (Legion of Azgorh)
War Machines
Deathshrieker (120)
Total: 1500/2000
Automatically Appended Next Post: Mind you the 2 groups of 10 warriors are armed with halberds not hand weapons
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/01/13 18:03:36
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/14 13:23:39
Subject: [1500] - Chaos - Nords and Dwarf and Deamons oh my
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Dakka Veteran
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you still need something to take out warmachines, or lone casters early on.
Maybe add in Wulfrik the Wanderer and 20 marauders? He is always handy, can take out artillery, disturb formations or take an un protected objective or even force your opponent to send part of his army in a certain direction, while you butcher the other part.
You can cut down 1 unit of warriors and take the sorecerlord on manticore instead of the lord. that way you have the 200 pts needed.
But I really think it is time to play test the thing and see how things go.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 17:52:59
Subject: [1500] - Chaos - Nords and Dwarf and Deamons oh my
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Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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True, true. One thing is though im trying to keep it semi fluffy/themed so i would like to keep the warriors, in no way im i trying to make this a turbo tournament list, just one thats not going to get torn apart as soon as it hits the table.
At 2k i add it a lot more ranged to take out war marines, that list has a Magma cannon, a second deathshreaker, and a demon smith so the magma cannon can hit 24" and death shreakers hit on 3s
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 18:03:19
Subject: [1500] - Chaos - Nords and Dwarf and Deamons oh my
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Dakka Veteran
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well, I would suggest to do some playtesting. If your demon prince and manitcore get shot down a lot by artillery or by casters you can still consider to add in wulfrik with marauders. Or have some reserve pts to summon something to dealt with it. It really depends on how your opponents play the game
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