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Combined Arms Detachment: 580 pts 1850pts

1 X Exalted Sorcerer (160pts)
-Spell Familiar
-Mastery Level 3

1 X Rubric Marines (150pts)
-Melta Bombs
-Rhino

1 X Rubric Marines (150pts)
-Melta Bombs
-Rhino

Tzaangor Warherd: 620 pts (Thousand Sons Detachment)

1 X Exalted Sorcerer (160pts)
-Spell Familiar
- Mastery Level 3

1 X Tzaangors (140pts)

1 X Tzaangors (140pts)

1 X Tzaangors (140pts)

Lord of War: 650 pts

1 X Magnus the Red (650)

Special Rules: Tzaangor Warherd (Restriction: Thousand Sons Detachment)
-Fleet
-Avaricious Vigor: Tzaangor units from this formation can Run and Charge in the same turn. In addition, if a charging Tzaangor unit rolls a 9 or more for its charge roll, add 1 to their strength and initiative in the ensuing fight sub-phase.

-Favored of Tzeench: If a Tzaangor Warherd contains the maximum number of units, then units from this formation can re-roll any failed saving throws of 1.


I am seeking opinions, comments and concerns on this list I am taking to the LVO.

I'd suggest removeing all the individual wargear costs and just listing the total unit cost, people get picky about that.

As for the list, I'm not a huge fan. Magnus is short on warp charge with only 13+d6 when he really wants ~20 to himself (give or take a bit for siphon). The Tzaangors (which you've listed as 1x instead of 20x) are dead weight since even if they can run and charge, they're rocking a 6++ save, so they're going to get shot to hell and back before they get into charge range and even if they do get into combat, they're str3 the majority of the time and aren't fearless (without the Exalted sorc), so they're going to lose combat and likely get run down to boot. If you do have the exalteds in with the Tzaangors, since they're not on disks, then you can't run and charge either, at which point, why bother taking the formation since you lose ObSec for an extremely unlikely benefit.

The sons in rhinos are going to achieve nothing but giving up first blood easily since you've got 2 AV11 boxes on the board in a meta geared to deal with the gladius's razorspam, not to mention that 10 marines for 300 points is never a good deal.

Magnus doesn't belong in a Sons list, he wants to hang around with Daemons IMHO who can more easily support his warp charge addiction as well as give him some buffs and support options.

It's a fluffy list, but I don't rate Tzaangors and Rubricae are just flat out terrible, especially as MSU due to the cost of the sorceror.

 Drasius wrote:
I'd suggest removeing all the individual wargear costs and just listing the total unit cost, people get picky about that.

As for the list, I'm not a huge fan. Magnus is short on warp charge with only 13+d6 when he really wants ~20 to himself (give or take a bit for siphon). The Tzaangors (which you've listed as 1x instead of 20x) are dead weight since even if they can run and charge, they're rocking a 6++ save, so they're going to get shot to hell and back before they get into charge range and even if they do get into combat, they're str3 the majority of the time and aren't fearless (without the Exalted sorc), so they're going to lose combat and likely get run down to boot. If you do have the exalteds in with the Tzaangors, since they're not on disks, then you can't run and charge either, at which point, why bother taking the formation since you lose ObSec for an extremely unlikely benefit.

The sons in rhinos are going to achieve nothing but giving up first blood easily since you've got 2 AV11 boxes on the board in a meta geared to deal with the gladius's razorspam, not to mention that 10 marines for 300 points is never a good deal.

Magnus doesn't belong in a Sons list, he wants to hang around with Daemons IMHO who can more easily support his warp charge addiction as well as give him some buffs and support options.

It's a fluffy list, but I don't rate Tzaangors and Rubricae are just flat out terrible, especially as MSU due to the cost of the sorceror.

The point of the Tzaangors is to tie up the opponent, keeping them away from Magnus, while he flies around dropping D-beams everywhere, overlapping as many units as possible (especially since his D-beam can overlay targets that are in CC due to the beam not declaring a target.. In addition I'll be rolling with the hopes of grabbing Invisibility for the Tzaangors.

 Drasius wrote:
I'd suggest removeing all the individual wargear costs and just listing the total unit cost, people get picky about that.

It is kind of that - and more not trying to have any company get too upset about those types of things.