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With the ability to take a number of characters as HQs in the Ages of the Imperium, Skitarii included, is a Skitarii CAD now viable?

Kind of.

Having Ranger squads with Objective Secured would be awesome for camping objectives on your side of the board, but apart from that you're better served by the Maniple Detachment.

It's now legal and objective secured is a decent/sometimes great rule. If they give Skitarii a transport option then a CAD may end up being good. Until then an infantry heavy force with no transports is better served with Scout and Crusader for the mobility buff.

Allied detachemt is also viable now. A good option would be to take just Cawl and a unit of rangers allied to a maniple detachment. You could even opt to take secutarii hoplites as bodyguards for cawl.

I don't think it is. The HQs aren't faction skitarii. They're faction cult mechanicus.

Cawl can be taken as an HQ for Skitarii, thus they now can be organized in a CAD and allied detachment.

trindaros wrote:
Allied detachemt is also viable now. A good option would be to take just Cawl and a unit of rangers allied to a maniple detachment. You could even opt to take secutarii hoplites as bodyguards for cawl.

An allied detachment with Cawl, a unit of Rangers, and a Dunecrawler is probably better than a Dominus Maniple. I hadn't even thought of that.

At any rate, I would probably just run a Skitarii Maniple for Scout and put Cawl in with some Cult Mech.

It really only benefits Rangers. Plus there isn't much place for any of the trio to go in a Skitarii army. Celestine is mobile to go by herself and help those melee dudes in the elite slot and Dragoons, but Cawl has serious durability issues as he can't hide anywhere properly, and that Inquisitor doesn't do much it looks like.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
It really only benefits Rangers. Plus there isn't much place for any of the trio to go in a Skitarii army. Celestine is mobile to go by herself and help those melee dudes in the elite slot and Dragoons, but Cawl has serious durability issues as he can't hide anywhere properly, and that Inquisitor doesn't do much it looks like.

That's the first I have heard about Cawl having durability issues. He regens d3 wounds a turn and has 2+/5++/5+ FNP on a T6 model.

Also, I am all about rangers, so no loss there.

And he re-reolls his FNP I believe. And has, what, like 5 wounds?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
It really only benefits Rangers. Plus there isn't much place for any of the trio to go in a Skitarii army. Celestine is mobile to go by herself and help those melee dudes in the elite slot and Dragoons, but Cawl has serious durability issues as he can't hide anywhere properly, and that Inquisitor doesn't do much it looks like.

That's the first I have heard about Cawl having durability issues. He regens d3 wounds a turn and has 2+/5++/5+ FNP on a T6 model.

Also, I am all about rangers, so no loss there.

I meant if he joined another squad. Everyone is T3 in the army.


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 casvalremdeikun wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
It really only benefits Rangers. Plus there isn't much place for any of the trio to go in a Skitarii army. Celestine is mobile to go by herself and help those melee dudes in the elite slot and Dragoons, but Cawl has serious durability issues as he can't hide anywhere properly, and that Inquisitor doesn't do much it looks like.

That's the first I have heard about Cawl having durability issues. He regens d3 wounds a turn and has 2+/5++/5+ FNP on a T6 model.

Also, I am all about rangers, so no loss there.

I meant if he joined another squad. Everyone is T3 in the army.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
It really only benefits Rangers. Plus there isn't much place for any of the trio to go in a Skitarii army. Celestine is mobile to go by herself and help those melee dudes in the elite slot and Dragoons, but Cawl has serious durability issues as he can't hide anywhere properly, and that Inquisitor doesn't do much it looks like.

That's the first I have heard about Cawl having durability issues. He regens d3 wounds a turn and has 2+/5++/5+ FNP on a T6 model.

Also, I am all about rangers, so no loss there.

I meant if he joined another squad. Everyone is T3 in the army.

Ah, I get you now. I was seriously flabbergasted otherwise. Like, what is your baseline for durable, a WK? He also suffers from having short range shooting. But yeah, in a T3 army, he doesn't have any meat shields. I guess if he attached to some Kastelan Robots he would be okay. In Skittles, no such luck. Surround him with Onager Dunecrawler, I guess.

I would say that Cawl is quite a terrible option for a Skitarii force. Sure he is a force to be reckoned with, but he is god awfully short ranged and to slow to keep up to the Skitarii infantry and cavalry.
Cawl is a lot better when used with a Cult Mechanicus army, but falls short on the Skitarii side of the Admech. The other two of the triumvirate fit the Skitarii play style a bit more funnily enough.
Greyfax pretty much guarantees you multiple shooting fases against armies with tons of infiltrators like Genstealer Cults.
While Celestine is fast enough to keep up with our own infiltrators and dragoons.

 Arlen wrote:
I would say that Cawl is quite a terrible option for a Skitarii force. Sure he is a force to be reckoned with, but he is god awfully short ranged and to slow to keep up to the Skitarii infantry and cavalry.
Cawl is a lot better when used with a Cult Mechanicus army, but falls short on the Skitarii side of the Admech. The other two of the triumvirate fit the Skitarii play style a bit more funnily enough.
Greyfax pretty much guarantees you multiple shooting fases against armies with tons of infiltrators like Genstealer Cults.
While Celestine is fast enough to keep up with our own infiltrators and dragoons.

I hadn't really thought about using Greyfax. Frickin' invisible Rangers would be pretty awesome.

Throw in Celestine with a Sicarian Killcade. Hit and Run with that many hits? Ghastly! The extra wounds make the Infiltrators more survivable, too (although, because they have infiltrate, you have to wait till turn 1 to join Celestine to them - worth it, in my opinion).

I'm not really sure about Greyfax in a Skitarii army. The psycocollum doesn't really help when everyone is constantly at BS 5+. Throwing in a Xenos Inquisitor with Psychotroke grenades into a Killcade, however...

Warhammer is gonna be interesting for the next few months before 8th edition.