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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/18 00:53:20
Subject: The technological knowledge of Robute Guilliman...
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Pretty simple question. RG originates in a time of science and enlightenment, how will he interact with the contemporary views on technology? Perhaps more importantly, what secrets might he know that were lost? I wouldn't put it beyond what must be an extensive knowledge of military hardware to know how a few things work. Perhaps more importantly, if he feels these are necessary to the dire times, I can't see him really bowing to Mechanicus superstition (whom I'm sure he sees as useful idiots. Yes yes, bless the tank and all that, now give it to my legion).
Imagine if his armour- undoubtedly a custom job- contained a data file somewhere in it so any Imperial tech could facilitate repairs to it? A schematic for how to build primarch grade armour? Robutes own musings on a new style of tank he thinks the Imperium could use? It seems likely to me that anyone as deeply involved in the organisation, tactics and command as RG was must have significant familiarity with the hardware in use. For a normal mortal, knowing the real specifics might be too much- to be a general AND engineer- but for a primarch?
What kind of war machine does Ultramar become under the returned primarch? The region once supported the Ultramarines legion (and oh boy did geneseed just get a whole lot easier to provide!) and is again under RG's control. Are the Ultramarines about to become the most kick ass chapter in the galaxy?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/18 01:06:48
Subject: Re:The technological knowledge of Robute Guilliman...
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there is little evidance Gulliman was technical minded. apparently his currently armor as of 40k, was a new design crafted specificly for him by Cawl.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/18 21:12:40
Subject: The technological knowledge of Robute Guilliman...
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no but he might say have you tried typing in the password, or that works so much better if you turn the safety off
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/19 06:50:57
Subject: The technological knowledge of Robute Guilliman...
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And the mechanicum is probably one of the factions which - philosophically at least - has changed least in 10,000 years. They weren't terribly open then, and whilst there was a rapid rate of advancement, it was rediscovery, not invention.
Gulliman is probably as educated on technology as most mechanicus magos, but, as noted, there's no indication he was given much to designing weapons or vehicles. Most of the unique legion units were tactical concepts purloined from other legions and tweaked.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/19 07:10:32
Subject: The technological knowledge of Robute Guilliman...
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Most of the thing she is credited for, (the Sicaran, some of the unique legion units of e UM) were things he assisted on, but i expect most of the technical side of things came from other primarchs - though, its never really expanded on in the fluff.
Sadly, if theres any institution that cant be bulldozed by a Primarch, its likely the Adeptus Mechanicus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/19 10:57:53
Subject: The technological knowledge of Robute Guilliman...
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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He might know a technique here or there. Enough to make the slow points in a novel interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/19 11:52:43
Subject: Re:The technological knowledge of Robute Guilliman...
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Considering how the mechanicum is, and it's the mechanicum that seems to have a substantial role in resurrecting him along with the Eldar, I'd be at least in part surprised if there isn't some sort of control built into the armour to deter him from going bat over the way the imperium is and importantly, the mechanicums substantial role along with the ecclesiarchy's in the current status quo.
E.g. a kill switch to keep him quiet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/19 12:14:12
Subject: Re:The technological knowledge of Robute Guilliman...
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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endlesswaltz123 wrote:Considering how the mechanicum is, and it's the mechanicum that seems to have a substantial role in resurrecting him along with the Eldar, I'd be at least in part surprised if there isn't some sort of control built into the armour to deter him from going bat over the way the imperium is and importantly, the mechanicums substantial role along with the ecclesiarchy's in the current status quo.
E.g. a kill switch to keep him quiet.
I doubt it, and frankly he'll likely not go "bat insane" over it. every bit of info we've seen on Gulliman suggests the man approuches any situation through "the theoreticals and the praticals" in other words he looks at somethingm, says "ok what'd be ideal here.. and ok whats the pratical thing I CAN do and I'll do that" my guess is he'll not rock the boat too much
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/19 15:18:59
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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The Mechanicus isn't anymore superstitious than the Mechanicum of Guilliman's time. Their organisation may have changed, but their ideology and doctrines have stayed mostly the same, as has their monopoly on technology. Roboute will feel at home right away when he meets the Mechanicus.
Also, while Guilliman probably will have some technological aptitude as he had a role in designing a few vehicles, he was never renowned for it (unlike say Perturabo or Ferrus Manus). It is extremely unlikely Guilliman has more technological knowledge than a Magos of the AdMech.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/02/19 17:59:27
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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Kojiro wrote:Pretty simple question. RG originates in a time of science and enlightenment, how will he interact with the contemporary views on technology? Perhaps more importantly, what secrets might he know that were lost? I wouldn't put it beyond what must be an extensive knowledge of military hardware to know how a few things work. Perhaps more importantly, if he feels these are necessary to the dire times, I can't see him really bowing to Mechanicus superstition (whom I'm sure he sees as useful idiots. Yes yes, bless the tank and all that, now give it to my legion).
Imagine if his armour- undoubtedly a custom job- contained a data file somewhere in it so any Imperial tech could facilitate repairs to it? A schematic for how to build primarch grade armour? Robutes own musings on a new style of tank he thinks the Imperium could use? It seems likely to me that anyone as deeply involved in the organisation, tactics and command as RG was must have significant familiarity with the hardware in use. For a normal mortal, knowing the real specifics might be too much- to be a general AND engineer- but for a primarch?
What kind of war machine does Ultramar become under the returned primarch? The region once supported the Ultramarines legion (and oh boy did geneseed just get a whole lot easier to provide!) and is again under RG's control. Are the Ultramarines about to become the most kick ass chapter in the galaxy?
You have the wrong era, Guilliman knows nothing that can help..
Guilliman was alive after the Horus Heresy. He was there along with a bunch of other loyalist primarchs trying to rebuilt the empire/knowledge after the great civil war in the 31st millennium. With the help of Dorn, Corax, Vulkan, Russ, the Lion, and Khan they rebuilt Mars as best they could. Half the 30k Ad Mech was still alive then also trying to rebuild what was lost. They all did their best, and the result is what has struggled on until 40k. Any knowledge he alone had was passed on 10,000 years ago. Him waking up there is nothing he knows that is not already known.
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