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Hey guys, just a "is this legit" question.

I know the Betrayal at Calth and Burning of Prospero have the Horus Heresy (HH) MK III and IV power armor that represent both Chaos and regular Space Marines but I just want to confirm if using those marines in HH armor legit to use in 40k as regular Chaos Space Marines?

I'm not really digging the current Chaos Space Marine squad models in general so I was looking for some viable options and my eyes caught the HH models.

Will it be okay to use those models in a 40k CSM army at Games Workshop and Tournaments?
Or will I have to ask the Manager if he's okay with it?

So for example, a Word Bearers CSM army with the MK IV marines as the CSM squad. (Colour scheme will be the Post-heresy scheme).

As long as they are obviously marines and carry the proper equipment there are no problems.

You should be fine. I don't know that anyone complains about taking power-armoured models from one kit and using them in a different squad under any other circumstances (using CSM models as Havocs, Tactical Marines as Devastators, etc.), Mk.IV and Mk.III Marines with the correct weapons should be just fine as a Chaos army.

Also you may have an easier time setting up a Havoc squad, FW has autocannon bits set up to work with those models.

I can't see why it would be a problem, a marine is a marine is a marine. As long as everything is WYSIWYG the only real difference between CSM and SM is paint schemes and armour decoration. If you were worried about them not explicitly looking like Chaos marines you could always paint on a few chaos stars and arrows.

Absolutely, yes.

I'm doing exactly that. Im currently making 2 havok squads with MKIII armor and FW autocannons. They fit in fine. They are actually more wysiwyg than buying a regular chaos havok squad because the 40k kit only comes with 1 autocannon.

Why not.

Not every chaos marine is a corupted plague blob, horned or got tenticles.

They could easily represent newer marines or those who shunned mutation more like iron warriors and replace with augmentation.

Thanks for the reply guys.

I was actually more concerned about using FW products in GW stores since I heard that some stores/tournies don't support/allow FW rules and it seems like the MK IV models and MK III models are FW-original.
Please correct me if Im wrong

Once I've finished with a loyalist Heresy army, I'll be using those plastics with FW shoulde rpads to a Night Lords army.

I'll quite happily be using them in 40K as well.

My reasoning will always be that, although 10 000 years have gone by in real time, it's only been 100 for my warp-resident Night Lords. I've never been one the for the horned helmet look anyway.

Its absolutely fine, when I first went to Nottingham HQ the rules were 1) have to be GW or FW models, 2) Base coated. If they are GW models you can use them within reason, particularly between chaos and normal space marines as it gives you many great conversions you can back up with your own story.

P.S GW have already endorsed using normal Space Marines as Chaos Space Marines...

I'm building my Iron Warriors as mk3/mk4 models and using them for chaos and 30K. Luckily they aren't a very chaotic bunch.

Certain Chaos Marines are more mutated/changed than others. Some are basically not changed at all.

Alpha Legion in particular should just be running around in their heresy armor.

But like... Thousand Sons are crazy Rubric armors.

And other legions have crazy morphed armors with growths of fungus or tentacles or extra mouths.

You could also just say they represent Chaos Marines from sometime shortly after the Heresy, so they still retain their original Legion looks. It used to be that games in Warhammer 40k could represent battles at the cutting edge of M41, or M35, or what have you. It's not like Chaos immediately grew spikes when Horus died.

I run squads of Space Wolves in Heresy armour.
I'd actually believe mk4 to be more prevelant in most armies than mk6 or mk7

Definitely! I plan on picking up a few of the mkIII squads to paint up as death guard dudes cause to me they already look fairly evil!

In response to the OP; why not? Your models, your game. As long as the opponent knows (and WYSIWYG kind of sees) which model is what and totes around which weaponry.

You could even use contemporary mark VI and mark VII armour. Units (and sometimes an entire Chapter) go rogue every now and then, turning to Chaos. Also, in both the lore and the game, armour is scavenged quite often, especially when a supply line is lacking. In-game, a great example was the Space Wolf 13th company in the Eye Of Terror codex. The models were a combination of Space Wolf and Chaos Space Marine sprues. Logan Grimnar's axe Morkai wasn't exactly forged by a Space Wolf Iron Priest either, was it?

As someone stated above, I too run my IW as Mark III and IV marines. I feel like it suits them. As for other Legions, do whatever you want. The warp is a weird place, who's to say they didn't somehow skip the past 10k years or maybe your CSM'
s pillaged a forgotten heresy era supply depot. Make them how you want them, after all you are paying for it