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As a side note, the next time you guys get bummed over Australian pricing, keep in mind we have to pay 29AUD for a 270g bag of twisties, so who is really suffering.

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As a side note, the next time you guys get bummed over Australian pricing, keep in mind we have to pay 29AUD for a 270g bag of twisties, so who is really suffering.


Wha? You can get a packet for like 90 cents?

I mean, there's some silly markups on American stuff like Hersheys, but it's more like triple the price, not 30 times, and it doesn't matter because Hershey's sucks.

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 sebster wrote:
I have no idea if Franken calling for an ethics investigation in to himself is a stunt or not. I do know that both of Franken's apologies were crap. Also a lot of the coverage is also crap. Everyone is focusing on the photo, and calling it evidence he groped her. But he's not touching her. That doesn't make it okay, it's still objectifying her, but the claim of groping elevates the issue, turns the claim in to something this is not, and buries the really serious parts of the allegation. Franken himself buries the worst part of the accusation, that's why his apology is crap.

The first really bad thing Franken was accused of is use his position to contrive a scene where he kisses Tweeden. The second thing he did is after being rebuffed - he isolated her, only spoke to her in petty insults. Both of those things are very serious. In contrast, pretending to grope her in a funny photo is awful, but the other two are direct uses of power to force intimate contact from a women, and then punish her when she refused - and those are despicable acts.
On the other hand he could be genuinely sorry for what he did and apologizing for the 'groping' incident as a proxy for the whole thing since that's the buzz word being thrown around by the media right now. He definitely goes out of his way to include more than just the picture. Now I'm not saying he is, it's just that his actions could represent someone repentant or someone acting in order to appear so. That he called for an ethics investigation could be a stunt, but could just as easily be someone trying to turn a corner on their past and do the right thing. I think passing judgement on him either way is premature at the moment, as opposed to individuals like Moore where the evidence is both overwhelming and damming.

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On the other hand he could be genuinely sorry for what he did and apologizing for the 'groping' incident as a proxy for the whole thing since that's the buzz word being thrown around by the media right now. He definitely goes out of his way to include more than just the picture. Now I'm not saying he is, it's just that his actions could represent someone repentant or someone acting in order to appear so. That he called for an ethics investigation could be a stunt, but could just as easily be someone trying to turn a corner on their past and do the right thing. I think passing judgement on him either way is premature at the moment, as opposed to individuals like Moore where the evidence is both overwhelming and damming.


Franken's approach has certainly been better than Moore's. But that's a low bar to be honest, Moore was an awful person who did awful things, even before we knew about his predations.

This is the part that in Franken's apology I'm trying to get my head around;
"While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women’s experiences."

It's a good line, if what happened was a genuine misunderstanding. If Franken's actions were as cynical as Tweeden claims, then Franken's comment was just a well crafted line in a damage control exercise. What makes me concerned that it might be the latter is that first awful apology, and that even in the second, much improved apology Franken didn't really address how he treated her after the incident at the audition.

But it is speculation, I will grant that.

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Franken doesn't come out and say "I did it!" and he really shouldn't, as that would make things worse for him politcally/criminally speaking. (Warning: Not an Expert!)

However, he does an excellent job of saying I am sorry, and keeping the focus on the larger issue of women being sexual harassed. That is great spin doctoring and politics. He tries to take himself out of the picture and put the focus on the issue and how he is going to help solve it going forward. PR Master class right there.

He should never have made that Twitter apology and instead kept his powder dry for this one.

**** That being said, I have heard there is similar Sexual Harassment going on in UK politics as well? Is that true? How are the Brits handling the issue?****

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As badly as can be expected, plenty of accusations, some admissions along with 'but it isn't as bad as it seems'

(let's send my assistant out to buy sex toys for my wife, that's a great way to behave http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/29/brexit-minister-sent-assistant-buy-sex-toys-will-investigated/)

loads of behind the scenes talking amongst the leaders about how things have to change but no real action so far

above and beyond the general potential for harassment etc at present every one of the 650 MPs is responsible for hiring their own staff to work for them in parliament so they're the ones their staff would have to take complaints to which clearly isn't going to happen so they might manage to make parliament the employer of all the staff who would then at least be able to have some sort of HR process but we wait to see

and one suspension in the welsh regional assembly with little or no reason given (other than an accusation has been made) lead to the suicide of the suspended MP who felt he couldn't fight things as he didn't know what he was accused of

(he could have been guilty of something significant eg an assault, something much less significant eg a sexually inappropriate environment or even nothing we have no idea and his suicide shouldn't be taken as any sort of admission of wrongdoing as some of the press seems to be doing)


 
   
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 Easy E wrote:
Franken doesn't come out and say "I did it!" and he really shouldn't, as that would make things worse for him politcally/criminally speaking. (Warning: Not an Expert!)

However, he does an excellent job of saying I am sorry, and keeping the focus on the larger issue of women being sexual harassed. That is great spin doctoring and politics. He tries to take himself out of the picture and put the focus on the issue and how he is going to help solve it going forward. PR Master class right there.

He should never have made that Twitter apology and instead kept his powder dry for this one.

**** That being said, I have heard there is similar Sexual Harassment going on in UK politics as well? Is that true? How are the Brits handling the issue?****


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What I'm getting from all this is that men really are pigs.


I wouldn’t go that far, personally.

It seems like every other week we get a teacher/student(s) sex scandal involving female teachers and usually underage male students.

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/17/dem-candidate-boasts-hayloft-romp-sex-with-50-women-in-bid-to-preempt-oppo.html

n a textbook example of why Facebook users should pause for a moment of reflection before they post, a Democratic candidate for Ohio governor sought Friday to get ahead of any potential sex scandals by announcing the details of his relationships with 50 women.

The sexcapade diary was in response to the Al Franken scandal, and included a hayloft romp with a "gorgeous blonde" and a fling with a "red head from Cleveland."

“Now that the dogs of war are calling for the head of Senator Al Franken I believe it is time to speak up on behalf of all heterosexual males,” Ohio Supreme Court Justice Bill O’Neill posted on Facebook. “As a candidate for Governor let me save my opponents some research time.”

O’Neill went on to say: “In the last fifty years I was sexually intimate with approximately 50 very attractive females. It ranged from a gorgeous blonde who was my first true love and we made passionate love in the hayloft of her parent’s barn and ended with a drop dead gorgeous red head from Cleveland.”



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 djones520 wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/17/dem-candidate-boasts-hayloft-romp-sex-with-50-women-in-bid-to-preempt-oppo.html
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n a textbook example of why Facebook users should pause for a moment of reflection before they post, a Democratic candidate for Ohio governor sought Friday to get ahead of any potential sex scandals by announcing the details of his relationships with 50 women.

The sexcapade diary was in response to the Al Franken scandal, and included a hayloft romp with a "gorgeous blonde" and a fling with a "red head from Cleveland."

“Now that the dogs of war are calling for the head of Senator Al Franken I believe it is time to speak up on behalf of all heterosexual males,” Ohio Supreme Court Justice Bill O’Neill posted on Facebook. “As a candidate for Governor let me save my opponents some research time.”

O’Neill went on to say: “In the last fifty years I was sexually intimate with approximately 50 very attractive females. It ranged from a gorgeous blonde who was my first true love and we made passionate love in the hayloft of her parent’s barn and ended with a drop dead gorgeous red head from Cleveland.”




Just...really?
Spoiler:

Because crap like that, boasting about your ability to have lots of women, is part of the fething problem.

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Yeah. Someone is definitely missing the point, and a being kind of a smug douche he's at it.

   
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There is one attempt on a "gorgeous", person he does not like to talk about because it ended badly:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zJFxmeQmh0I

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 djones520 wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/17/dem-candidate-boasts-hayloft-romp-sex-with-50-women-in-bid-to-preempt-oppo.html

n a textbook example of why Facebook users should pause for a moment of reflection before they post, a Democratic candidate for Ohio governor...


As well as being a tone deaf ass who seems to have almost no clue as to what the people in the recent scandals actually did wrong, this idiot should never be elected to a remotely serious job just because he cannot write for gak. Just read this sentence...

"It ranged from a gorgeous personal secretary to Senator Bob Taft (Senior) who was my first true love and we made love in the hayloft of her parent's barn in Gallipolis and ended with a drop dead gorgeous red head who was a senior advisor to Peter Lewis at Progressive Insurance i Cleveland." Sure, if we carry on to the end of that painful run on sentence it eventually becomes clear that it was Bob Taft's personal secretary who was his first love, but I spent most of that wild ride thinking the guy had sex with Bob Taft Sr, who was his first love.


Anyhow, I'm guessing there isn't much to do in Ohio other than get caught up in sex scandals, because...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-a-conservative-group-dealt-with-a-fondling-charge-against-a-rising-gop-star/2017/11/17/b3b4b8da-c956-11e7-b0cf-7689a9f2d84e_story.html?utm_term=.4c9a685f4d97

"On a fall evening two years ago, donors gathered during a conference at a Ritz-Carlton hotel near Washington to raise funds for a 31-year-old candidate for the Ohio legislature who was a rising star in evangelical politics. Hours later, upstairs in a hotel guest room, an 18-year-old college student who had come to the event with his parents said the candidate unzipped his pants and fondled him in the middle of the night. The frightened teenager fled the room and told his mother and stepfather, who demanded action from the head of the organization hosting the conference."

Tony Perkins, head of the Family Research Council and Council for National Policy, and a very powerful fundraiser and leader in evangelical Republican circles took the matter in hand. He asked the candidate, Wesley Goodman, to step down, and wrote him a letter in which it is clear Perkins knew of other incidets prior to this one. But Goodman did not step down, and Perkins responded to that by keeping silent about the whole thing and watching Goodman win the primary and general and take a seat on the Ohio legislature. After this, Perkins kept silent about this for the next two years, because his priority was to discretely... oh hang on it was a cover up, wasn't it? One of the most powerful evangelical activists in the country was told one his allied politicians preyed on a teenage boy and responded by just covering it up and letting the man continue to accrue political power.

And of course, Perkins wasn't the only person aware of the event, emails have since surfaced showing several insiders discussing the issue. None of them did a thing about Goodman taking and holding his seat in Ohio.

The incident has now come to light and Goodman has stood down from his seat. He's almost certainly toast, whatever has changed lately, the old rule about a dead girl or a live boy still holds. But I wonder if Tony Perkins will manage to slide on this? While he is a very powerful figure, one of the kingmakers who brought Trump the evangelical vote, he isn't a public figure, the people who actually know him are the ones to whom he is very important politically and financially... I think it will barely impact him at all.

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 welshhoppo wrote:


But I'm not surprised, at this rate I wouldn't bat an eye if someone comes forward to accuse Bob Ross of rape.


Seems like it could be anyone next. Americans might not be familiar but Aled Jones is hardly someone you’d guess of inappropriate anything.

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Jeffrey Tambor????

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/20/565254200/jeffrey-tambor-may-be-leaving-transparent-amid-sexual-harassment-allegations


ransparent star Jeffrey Tambor has announced he may be leaving the hit Amazon series after two women accused him of sexual harassment.

Tambor continues to deny the allegations leveled this month by one of his co-stars on the show and by his former assistant. But the actor intimated his departure from the show, in a statement provided to NPR, due to a recent "politicized atmosphere" on the set.

"Playing Maura Pfefferman on 'Transparent' has been one of the greatest privileges and creative experiences of my life," Tambor said. "What has become clear over the past weeks, however, is that this is no longer the job I signed up for four years ago. I've already made clear my deep regret if any action of mine was ever misinterpreted by anyone as being aggressive, but the idea that I would deliberately harass anyone is simply and utterly untrue. Given the politicized atmosphere that seems to have afflicted our set, I don't see how I can return to 'Transparent.' "
According to Deadline, which first broke the news on Sunday, the first allegation against Tambor was made by his former assistant and transgender actress Van Barnes. In a private Facebook post earlier this month, Barnes claimed her former boss, without naming Tambor, had sexually harassed and groped her, prompting Amazon Studios officials to open an investigation into the matter.

Just more than a week later, his transgender co-star Trace Lysette released a statement that Tambor "made many sexual advances and comments at me, but one time it got physical." She proceeds to describe an instance in which he pressed up against the actress and "began quick, discreet thrusts back and forth" against her, in between filming.

In response to the allegations, Tambor admitted he "can be volatile and ill-tempered ... But I have never been a predator – ever."

When news dropped of the network's investigation, Deadline reports that Transparent writers considered writing Tambor's central character Maura out of the upcoming fifth season.

Still, Tambor has yet to officially quit the show. A source close to the show says no final decision about next season has been made by Tambor or Amazon.



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Also, a second story comes out about Al Franken....

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/al-franken-inappropriate-touch-2010/index.html

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An Oklahoma state senator, Republican Ralph Shortey, will be pleading guilty this week to child sex trafficking. Which to be honest sounds a lot worse than it really is - what he did was hire a 17 year old boy on craig's list to have sex with him. Which is all kinds of wrong, of course, but not what comes to mind when you hear 'child sex trafficking'. Anyway, it carries a minimum 10 year terms, so police are not screwing around with this.




Yeah, that's two stories now, in both cases victims told their friends and family at the time, who have verified the story, and while the patterns of behaviour from Franken are not as similar as we see in the Trump or Weinstein claims, they're certainly both of the same kind. Pretty damning for Franken, I think.

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 LordofHats wrote:
Yeah. Someone is definitely missing the point, and a being kind of a smug douche he's at it.


Speaking of which....
Morrissey.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-42050512

Seriously, why?
If your anecdote is 'this never happened to me when I was young,' shut your pie-hole.

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Charlie Rose just got swept into the mix over the weekend. He is a pretty big name in Journalism circles.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm_term=.be0ab57524ee

This "moment" (for lack of a better word around what is happening now) is going to have a long, long reach in Hollywood, Washington, and the Journalism world. I am surprised we are not hearing more about CEO's and similar business leaders yet.

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 LordofHats wrote:
Yeah. Someone is definitely missing the point, and a being kind of a smug douche he's at it.


Speaking of which....
Morrissey.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-42050512

Seriously, why?
If your anecdote is 'this never happened to me when I was young,' shut your pie-hole.

Because he is Morrissey and he has an album out.

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 Steve steveson wrote:
Voss wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
Yeah. Someone is definitely missing the point, and a being kind of a smug douche he's at it.


Speaking of which....
Morrissey.

http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-42050512

Seriously, why?
If your anecdote is 'this never happened to me when I was young,' shut your pie-hole.

Because he is Morrissey and he has an album out.

Well that doesn't sound like Morrissey. Wouldn't he have to interact with people to produce an album?
Not sure that weighing in on the wrong side of this mess will help sell an album, either

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 Easy E wrote:
Charlie Rose just got swept into the mix over the weekend. He is a pretty big name in Journalism circles.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/eight-women-say-charlie-rose-sexually-harassed-them--with-nudity-groping-and-lewd-calls/2017/11/20/9b168de8-caec-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html?utm_term=.be0ab57524ee

This "moment" (for lack of a better word around what is happening now) is going to have a long, long reach in Hollywood, Washington, and the Journalism world. I am surprised we are not hearing more about CEO's and similar business leaders yet.


He's done.

http://beta.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-rose-cbs-fired-20171121-story.html

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 Easy E wrote:

This "moment" (for lack of a better word around what is happening now) is going to have a long, long reach in Hollywood, Washington, and the Journalism world. I am surprised we are not hearing more about CEO's and similar business leaders yet.


My wife and I were talking about this at dinner.

We don't know that gak isn't going down in the business world, do we? These aren't necessarily high profile people (with notable exceptions). Can you name the CEO and officers of Goodyear Tire or Target without using google or wiki-pedia? It's in the business' best interests to keep gak quiet so they don't lose customers/clients. If a CEO, VP, whatever is asked to step down due to gross misconduct (sleeping with a secretary, quid pro quo, hitting on the intern), they may issue a statement like "Bob is leaving the company to pursue other options", throw some $$$ at the victim, and move on.

Through a friend of an HR supervisor, I know of a company just outside of the Fortune 500 that recently lost their CEO for messing around with a director's assistant who turned over the emails from the CEO to HR. Within a few days, his company has a new CEO, the previous CEO is transitioning into a new stage of his personal life or some such BS, and the assistant got a check and some considerable personal leave...

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 kronk wrote:
 Easy E wrote:

This "moment" (for lack of a better word around what is happening now) is going to have a long, long reach in Hollywood, Washington, and the Journalism world. I am surprised we are not hearing more about CEO's and similar business leaders yet.


My wife and I were talking about this at dinner.

We don't know that gak isn't going down in the business world, do we? These aren't necessarily high profile people (with notable exceptions). Can you name the CEO and officers of Goodyear Tire or Target without using google or wiki-pedia? It's in the business' best interests to keep gak quiet so they don't lose customers/clients. If a CEO, VP, whatever is asked to step down due to gross misconduct (sleeping with a secretary, quid pro quo, hitting on the intern), they may issue a statement like "Bob is leaving the company to pursue other options", throw some $$$ at the victim, and move on.


True, must corporate bigwigs aren't household names, but the corporations themselves are. Anyway, there has been some crossover, as the guy in charge of Amazon's entertainment division is out.

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 Tannhauser42 wrote:

True, must corporate bigwigs aren't household names, but the corporations themselves are. Anyway, there has been some crossover, as the guy in charge of Amazon's entertainment division is out.


That's not to say we won't see it, though. Unless the company is high profile (Amazon), they'll likely just get lost in the local evening news...

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 kronk wrote:
 Tannhauser42 wrote:

True, must corporate bigwigs aren't household names, but the corporations themselves are. Anyway, there has been some crossover, as the guy in charge of Amazon's entertainment division is out.


That's not to say we won't see it, though. Unless the company is high profile (Amazon), they'll likely just get lost in the local evening news...


That is sort of my concern with all of this happening at once. It's hard to keep up with the latest scandal and some names may get brushed aside or forgotten with the sheer glut of it all. Of course, the perceived annonimity may be a reason more women are willing to speak up, which is good, but only exacerbates the glut. People's attention spans are short and limited in scope, so some offenders might get swept under the rug of it all.

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I'm not sure it does though. It sort of feels like spectacle. Some people get fired, others take their place. Are they really any better? It really needs a whole cultural paradigm shift. Maybe this is a sign of that and the individuals don't really matter anyway.

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Decrepit Dakkanaut






New Orleans, LA

 d-usa wrote:
As long as this results in a permanently improved environment for everyone involved, does it really matter if we find out about every single person though?


I get my kicks from schadenfreude, but I suppose improving the work environment for everyone is almost as important as my entertainment...

Still bummed about the "Hey, now!" guy. I always like his sad-sap, dead-pan characters.

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