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Ultramarines are generic so that brings abit of hate. I always make fun of Roboute's name beause it sounds/looks dumb. Just like I make fun of Angron (hi, i'm angron and I'm angry), Curze (hi, I'm curze, i'm a bit cursed. You can call me night haunter though, wanna see my deviantart page? you can see my OC, Kurze the hedgehog!), Lion El-Jonson, etc. Also, a lot of ultramarines are snobby pricks who punish thinking outside of the box, relying on a set of rules that were set in place before even a lot of the threats i 40k showed up (nids, commies for example.) That being said, I do like the Ultramarines to a point, and like them immensely more in the Horus Heresy setting. I bought a small force to run with guilliman and a squad of Fallen in fact, something I never thought I'd do 2 months ago.

As for abbadon and chaos in general? I like them because they have classic tragic stories. A lot of the chaos characters were alive during the horus heresy and so we read their stories and falls to chaos. The first book I read about warhammer was galaxy in flames. I did not get into the hobby knowing Horus (though i had a feeling considering its called the HORUS heresy, lol) and Abbadon would fall so far and I think that colors my opinions.